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There’s no doubt where this blame lies (shooting of Muslim 'terror suspect' in Australia)
Herald Sun (Melbourne) ^ | 25th September 2014 | Andrew Bolt

Posted on 09/24/2014 6:08:30 AM PDT by naturalman1975

TWO policemen are stabbed in Melbourne after offering to shake the hand of a Muslim terror suspect and who do Muslim leaders attack?

Yes, the police. Again.

The Islamic Council of Victoria’s reaction yesterday is a disgrace and only too typical of the Muslim leadership that has so betrayed Australia.

Here are the facts about the incident in Endeavour Hills on Tuesday, in which one officer was nearly killed after being knifed in the head, stomach and arm before the attacker was shot dead by the other officer, also wounded.

The dead man was Numan Haider, an 18-year-old Afghan refugee who attended an Islamic college and joined the radical Al Furqan Information Centre.

On Facebook he claimed the Australian Federal Police and ASIO were “declaring war on Islam and Muslims” and posted photographs of himself in military camouflage and balaclava, holding a jihadist flag.

Then last week the Islamic State urged supporters to behead Australians, drape an Islamic flag on their bodies and post pictures on the internet.

Also last week, police heard Haider was issuing threats and had brandished an Islamic State flag at a shopping centre.

His passport was cancelled and he was asked to come chat to police at Endeavour Hills.

Haider brought two knives and an Islamic flag.

It seems impossible to deny the role of Islam in this confrontation. It seems implausible to blame anyone but Haider himself for what followed.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 09/24/2014 6:08:30 AM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Let’s play Cowboys and moslems, islamists, please. Pretty please!


2 posted on 09/24/2014 6:09:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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3 posted on 09/24/2014 6:10:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: naturalman1975
"His passport was cancelled and he was asked to come chat to police at Endeavour Hills. "

Sidney we have a problem.

4 posted on 09/24/2014 6:10:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: naturalman1975

but islam is a peacfule religion -
“gimme a piece of your ear, your heart - and all of your head”.

western civilization still does not accept the truth. therefore it is doomed to extinction like the dinosaurs. All sane and truth seeking persons should prepare for the worst.


5 posted on 09/24/2014 6:11:29 AM PDT by Colehill1999 (Obama - he has become death, destroyer of the world.)
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To: driftdiver

More facts on this will emerge - but in essence, it looks like his home was raided yesterday and he wasn’t there, so the police told his parents it would be in his best interests to come in and see them before they came and found him - that’s what is meant by ‘he was asked’ in this case.


6 posted on 09/24/2014 6:12:32 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: driftdiver
Sidney we have a problem.

Houston, awaiting orders, please!

7 posted on 09/24/2014 6:13:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: naturalman1975

Great article, thanks fort he post.


8 posted on 09/24/2014 6:18:55 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: naturalman1975

There is no accomodation with those people. They can not live in a civilized country.


9 posted on 09/24/2014 6:55:55 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: I want the USA back

“There is no accomodation with those people. They can not live in a civilized country.”

I am encouraged by yours and others’ comments like this.....perhaps there will be enough of us to see the light before its too late.....its too late I’m afraid in the UK and France...those two countries are examples if we would notice them. But as we speak, our government keeps importing more and more muslims as “refugees”...the irony is that they are “refugees” because of other muslims.


10 posted on 09/24/2014 7:38:44 AM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: I want the USA back

It’s only the infidel politicians who insist that these bearded barbarians are peaceful.


11 posted on 09/24/2014 7:56:03 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: driftdiver

Those of you not from Texas likely don’t understand “Sheriff’s” and “Sheriif Departments” in Texas. Big ones, like for example Travis County’s 1,200 man force are philosophically pretty much the same as say a similar department in say Pennsylvania.

But, in smaller departments (less than 100 officers) like say Brewster County (out of 254 counties) just for example, the political mindset of the officers, with rare exception, on any political socio subject is rooted way back, like in the nineteenth century! There simply is not much gray in their thinking.

So, to those of us in need of a mind massage due to 2014’s current events, it can be a stress relieving exercise to fantasize about this same guy encountering Brewster County Deputies on the streets of Alpine with knives in his hands and waving a jihadi flag thinking 72. The outcome is absolutely predictable.

First of all, as dependably as the sun rises and sets every day, there would not have been any “request” for a “chat”. Indeed, that “exercise” would never have been a thought in anyone’s mind as these Texas law men are historically men of few words in potentially deadly encounters with bad guys. Idle “chat” with desperadoes is not in their training manual. Marksmanship is.

A Passport cancellation likewise would NEVER have been a thought on anybody’s mind!!! That would be laughable. At this moment in the fracas, The Texas Deputies would be thinking bullets and how many of em and shot placement. Aussie cops are thinking Passports and handshakes and international relations.

Second, the radio report that a “Jihadi” was brandishing knives and waving a Jihadi Flag at a shopping center on the streets of Alpine would be roughly the same in Brewster County as 911 was in New York! You see, in little Alpine the deputies would likely know nearly everyone there and thus be feeling ferociously protective as they pulled up on the scene.

Notice I said “jihadi”. In West Texas, terms like “Middle East looking” or “militant” or “protester” don’t exist. Lots of disabled vets are around though.

So, with that radio report, deputies would have hit 120 mph enroute to the shopping center and you can bet your very Life there would not have been a handshake involved EVER with the “jihadi” by the West Texas Deputies.

Upon laying eyes on this individual, the deputies would have dismounted their patrol cars with AR15’s drawn and pointed at this individual.(many West Texas law officers have AR15’s clipped on the inside of the drivers side door for quick access as they most often are by themselves)

There then would have been an ORDER issued to drop the weapons and the flag. Haider would then have charged the deputies. In 2-3 seconds, the jihadi is toting lots of lead and is very dead. 5 minutes later, Deputies are calling their wives on their cells to check on soccer practice. No stab wounds to deputies.

End of incident, no investigation, no hand wringing, no autopsy, no Grand Jury except to “no bill” (5 minutes) and Deputies back on Patrol in ten minutes. You see the concept of automatic desk duty following a shooting hasn’t made it to West Texas. Check back in 3014.


12 posted on 09/24/2014 8:04:27 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: I want the USA back

Yet are response is to go over there and save Muslim from Muslims.

Stupid


13 posted on 09/24/2014 8:35:39 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Enten

Exactly
We are saving Muslims from Muslims

Why?

Either side would just as soon slit our throats over here or over there or anywhere (as Dr Seuss would say).

Why, why , why are we protecting these people?


14 posted on 09/24/2014 8:38:11 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: naturalman1975

The police are clearly to blame in this incident.

Seriously, they were so unprepared to draw their weapons that one of them was stabbed three times, and the other once.

This is unacceptable. Offering to shake the hand of a violent suspect? What idiot thought that one up? And at the first hint of a knife, that attempted murderer should have had four or more bullets in him.

Here’s a better alternative. Make a short announcement to the “Muslim community” that if they cannot deal with being physically contacted by a police officer, then they need to leave Australia, because police officers are required to body search suspects to prevent incidents like this.

If they refuse to be searched, or refuse to leave, then they should expect to be incapacitated prior to being searched. This may include by Taser, truncheon, or bullets if necessary.


15 posted on 09/24/2014 9:49:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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