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From a former submariner: Mazel tov to the Israeli navy!
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 09/23/2014 | NIMROD GANZARSKI

Posted on 09/23/2014 8:49:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

The I.N.S Tannin (named after the biblical sea monster) is sleek and mysterious, even more so than her older sisters; she is also much more technologically advanced than her older sisters.

Tanin submarine. (photo credit:IDF SPOKESMAN’S UNIT)

Mazal tov Israel! Mazal tov IDF and mazal tov to the Israeli navy!

The newest addition to the Israeli submarine fleet is entering her new home – an Israeli port. The I.N.S Tannin (named after the biblical sea monster) is sleek and mysterious, even more so than her older sisters; she is also much more technologically advanced than her older sisters.

The new Tannin has large boots to fill; during the Six Day War (1967), the S class submarine I.N.S Tannin's captain received a Medal of Courage for his and his crews' actions during an operation against the Egyptians.

As a former submariner, waiting on the dock, just before the ceremony begins and watching all the preparations takes me back to my good ol' days of surfing the underwater currents. And then, seeing her here, entering the port all shiny and new after years of planning, building and sea trials brings tears to my eyes.

A new and improved submarine is exciting on many levels. On the security and defense level of course, we have just strengthened our punch and bettered our eyes and ears with one magnificent machine. Secondly, a new submarine is a new challenge for the soldiers and officers of the Israeli navy. Life on a submarine is something other people cannot comprehend. Sometimes soldiers who have served on tanks think they know what it's all about, but they don't. Submariners do not "serve" on a submarine – they live in her and with her. The sub is their home, their private room, their public coffee shop, their life line and their weapon when needed.

An Israeli submariner spends almost five years of his life being in the submarine fleet, so the connection is strong.

As opposed to other IDF units, the submarine unit is a closed group. The effect of no sun or fresh air, sometimes for weeks, results in a unique type of human connection between the submariners, and of course between the submariners and their boat.

Submariners live the submarine everyday for the rest of their lives - even if they have been out of uniform for over 18 years (like me). One thing a submariner will never forget is the air of the submarine. It has a unique and specific aroma and density to it that could never be explained and could never be analyzed. It’s a welded mix of machines and humans, just like a submarine – a united entity which is more than the sum of its parts.

The I.N.S Tannin is now entering her new home, ready to take on any task she will be given, ready to smile or show her fangs if and when needed.

So mazal tov Israel for accepting this amazing piece of technology and human team work into your family.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; israel; submarine

1 posted on 09/23/2014 8:49:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Good looking boat.


3 posted on 09/23/2014 8:57:19 AM PDT by mylife
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Has Israel integrated the gals aboard too?


4 posted on 09/23/2014 8:58:52 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: HalfIrish

I met one of the survivors of the Liberty at a restaurant. Was wearing a Liberty hat. He said he would be willing to have lunch some time soon. I will call him soon. Your post reminded me.....


5 posted on 09/23/2014 9:04:10 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: HalfIrish

Give it’s rest, Irish!


6 posted on 09/23/2014 9:30:24 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: Dogbert41

Nope. I will never stop speaking/writing about the treachery of Israel re the USS Liberty. Remove this post, too. Truth will prevail regardless.


7 posted on 09/23/2014 9:49:11 AM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: sukhoi-30mki
INS Tannin us the latest Type 212A diesel-electric AIP submarine built in Germany for the Israeli Navy by HDW. It is fast, quiet, and special weapon capable. Specifications for German U-212 class:

Displacement: 1,370 tons light; 1,460 tons surfaced/1,840 tons submerged

Speed: 12 kts surfaced/20 kts submerged; 8 kts on fuel cells

Dimensions: 57.15 (187.5 feet) × 7.00 (22.9 feet)× 7.00 (22.9 feet) meters

Armament: 6 bow 533-mm (22-inch) TT (DM-2A3 Seehecht or DM-2A4 wire-guided torpedoes)—provision for mine laying belt (24 tot. mines)

Electronics:

Radar: Kelvin-Hughes Type 1007 nav/search

Sonar: CSU-90 suite with EFS DBQS-40FTC MF active/passive, FAS 3-1 flank array, PRS 3-15 passive ranging, AN 5039A1 intercept, EFS/Allied Signal FMS-52 (MOA 3070) active mine-avoidance (30 and 70 kHz), EFS DSQS-21DG bow MF active, and TAS-3 towed LF linear passive hydrophone array

Electronic Warfare: EADS FL-1800U intercept; HDW-WASS C303/S Circe torpedo decoy system (40 tubes)

Machinery: diesel-electric, with 9 Siemens Polymer Electrolytic Membrane fuel cells (34 kw each) for air-independent cruising, 1 MTU 8V183 SE83 diesel generator set (1,040 kw), 1 Siemens Permasyn motor; 1 7-bladed prop; 2,400 shp

Range: 8,000 nm/8 kts surfaced; 420 nm/8 kts submerged

Crew: 5 officers, 22 enlisted

8 posted on 09/23/2014 12:22:39 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I always thought they were bigger than that.

I know... some are, some aren’t


9 posted on 09/23/2014 12:24:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MasterGunner01

The Dolphin-II-class submarine is far bigger than the German Type 212 submarines. Displacement is more than 2,000 t for Dolphin-II-class. In addition to the six 21’ torpedo tubes the Tanin and the following submarines will also have 4 25’ tubes.

The DM2A4 torpedoes are fiber-guided. With enhanced bandwidth of the fiber link this type of torpedo can operate as a forward sonar system.


10 posted on 10/02/2014 8:57:03 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub
The Dolphin II boats are great designs. I think this new addition to Israel's Navy significantly improves her undersea firepower. Speculation is the four 25-inch tubes are for Israel's nuclear-tipped Popeye Turbo SLCM. The Israeli's tested 4 of the Popeye Turbo missiles fired from Dolphin subs in 2000. They were on target at 930 miles and could take out Iranian targets.

It looks like Australia, Vietnam, and Taiwan are seriously considering the Japanese Soryu-class diesel-electric AIP boats for their navies. Meanwhile our country can no longer build subs of this type because our submariners won't budge from an all nuclear powered force. Sometimes, the “lesser” vessel may be better, especially in littoral waters. Our USN is deaf to such heresy.

11 posted on 10/02/2014 10:55:48 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: HalfIrish

Yeah but you never say anything about the USS Stark.


12 posted on 10/02/2014 11:00:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: MasterGunner01

The Japanese Soryu-class have one big problem: politics.
No country can be sure about the future Japanese politics according to weapon exports like spare parts. Also Japan has no experience in exporting military hardware and adopting it to customers needs. The same error Australia made with Kockums. Kockums did build marvelous submarines for Sweden but had no knowledge how to export them.

The Soryu-class is big but has less range than current Australian Collins-class. Japan has less need for range than Australia.

I prefer rather small submarines like Type 210mod and tenders to extend the range. For one Virginia-class submarine you can buy about 8 Type 210mod and men them all with the crew size of one Virginia-class submarine!

What do you think would scare China more:
One Virginia-class submarine
or 8 Type 210mod?


13 posted on 10/06/2014 1:32:40 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub
Eight ultra quiet diesel-electric AIP boats are better in Chinese waters than one nuke boat. This is heresy to the USN subdriver community, but not to Australia's subdrivers.

If the Aussies were to go with the Soryu-class, I'd expect they'd want to build them in Australia to prevent the kind of spares problems you suggested. They might enter into a co-development with Japan to improve any of the Soryu-class identified problems.

14 posted on 10/06/2014 10:17:20 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

The next problem is Japan has like Sweden no experience how to license build a submarine. That was the main problem for the Collins-class disaster.


15 posted on 10/10/2014 2:57:14 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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