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Racked and stacked! Revolver? Hammer down on empty chamber? Next chamber up ready to go.
1 posted on 09/17/2014 12:03:24 PM PDT by rktman
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Too many people watch hollyweird shows and movies where every one racks a round when they unholster their sidearm. Just stupid. My CHL weapon is always ready.

An unprepared weapon makes a good throwing object and that is about it.


2 posted on 09/17/2014 12:06:17 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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No need with newer revolvers, you can load them up.


3 posted on 09/17/2014 12:09:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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My P-12 .45 double stack Para-Ordnance is cocked, locked and ready to go.....


4 posted on 09/17/2014 12:10:39 PM PDT by nevergore
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Newer revolcers such as my Ruger SP-101 .357 and my S&W 686-6 .357 have safety bar instead of the old spur firing pin on the hammer and are perfectly safe to carry with the hammer on a loaded chamber. I usually carry the Ruger but sometimes I carry the Smith.


8 posted on 09/17/2014 12:13:21 PM PDT by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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Always one in the chamber in my PPK.


11 posted on 09/17/2014 12:16:42 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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Always one in the chamber of my KelTec P11 and 15 more in the mag.


16 posted on 09/17/2014 12:20:33 PM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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Always use a holster. Pocket holsters are good.


21 posted on 09/17/2014 12:29:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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My draw time difference between Israeli carry or one in the tube is 2.6 too 1.3 seconds. I can draw and put two in the chest and two to the head before most can draw, rack and fire the first round. I also carry one of the safest handguns made the Springfield Armory XDM-40. Internal drop safety, grip safety, trigger safety. round in chamber indicator and cocked indicator. Outstanding balance, night sites and 16 in the mag and one in the tube.
22 posted on 09/17/2014 12:30:47 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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Condition one or Condition three. One will always be faster, although there are some people who can bring a gun to action from three faster than one would believe. Which is best? Well, when SHTF one is better. However, if someone doesn't feel comfortable with one - for whatever reason - then three is perfectly valid as long as someone practices consistently to engage from it (including from disadvantageous positions).

What irks me, however, is when some people say that people who carry in three should not own a gun. Truth is that most people will never need to use their firearms for self defense, and moreover, those who need to use it will almost never be in a situation where they don't have that second to rack the slide. Sure, situation like the Trayvon /Zimmerman situation can arise (someone on top of you pounding your face in), or a situation where your arm is injured and you're trying to rack the slide using your night sights off your belt ...but most self defense situations are not that.

Thus the argument that gun owners who carry in three need to sell the gun and buy mace is moot. A gun will always be a prudent choice.

And talking about statistics ....I am sure there are SIGNIFICANTLY more people who have had negligent/accidental discharges carrying condition one than there have been people carrying condition three who have been killed by assailants because they didn't have that second to rack the slide.

25 posted on 09/17/2014 12:43:16 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Same here. I carry my Ruger LC-9 with one in the chamber and thumb safety on. No other way to carry IMHO.


28 posted on 09/17/2014 12:47:41 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("A man should be prepared to be sufficient unto himself...")
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My carry gun is a Kimber Ultra Carry II in a Fobus holster. Since it has no thumstrap, I carry it in condition 2. Aside from the time factor, I carry with a round in the chamber to have the +1 available.


31 posted on 09/17/2014 1:02:44 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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I once read of a Texas Ranger who carried his 1911 with one in the chamber, safety off and the grip safety taped.

When someone asked him if that wasn’t dangerous he supposedly said “it sure is”.

I thought that was funny but I certainly wouldn’t do it.


32 posted on 09/17/2014 1:11:38 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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An attacker will do his best to not seem to be a threat until he's at arm's length from you. You will NOT have time to rack your slide.

Israelis tend to carry with an empty chamber, but their most likely scenarios are terrorists across the street or across the room, so they are more likely to have time.

42 posted on 09/17/2014 2:31:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Any double action revolver can be carried with all chambers loaded. Iver Johnson introduced the transfer bar system early in the last century. Smiths were always safe to carry with full cylinders, but added an additional hammer block in 1945.

Colt SAA (Peacemakers) and clones load 5, as with early Ruger single actions, and the like.


44 posted on 09/17/2014 2:42:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Well obviously no one has any ‘common sense’.

I carry mine empty, with the lock in the trigger guard with the cylinder (naturally) open.

I figure I can get the lock off, load and be ready to go into action in 5-8 minutes...that is providing my box of ammo is at hand.

The last lock ‘they’ gave me has two holes and a circular disc with two arms on it... Of course, it has to be squared up to the holes in order to make it work which is a snap while a ‘bad guy’ has you under his ‘watchful eye’.

That system really works if you keep your piece in a locked safe in a room your child(ren) don’t have access to.
I sincerely hope a s/ is NOT necessary here...

Who ever dreams this crap up really has to get a life and quit screwing with mine.


54 posted on 09/17/2014 3:57:23 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) If you can't convince them, confuse them.)
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Hey! YO!! BUCKO!!!

What the EFFF is your DAMN PROBLEM with a “VET” in your favorite cafe???? (I.e. a VET in your ‘cafe’.)

Or did I READ that WRONG????

Its probably me. But please help me out here.


59 posted on 09/17/2014 4:33:04 PM PDT by Frederick_Barbarossa (W)
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Modern revolvers have hammer block safeties. No need for an empty chamber. They are a very good choice for beginners.


61 posted on 09/17/2014 5:00:45 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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Ping for later


62 posted on 09/17/2014 5:11:13 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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Many modern striker-fired compact CCWs (M&P Shield, Taurus 709, etc) are designed to be carried with one in the chamber, using trigger, drop-block/striker-block, and manual safeties (although most owners manuals say not to do that). I know many here refuse to get striker-fired carry weapons with manual safeties, but if you’re worried about unintended discharges while carrying in condition 1, then you might look into those kind of pistols. Once the gun is leveled, it takes no time to flick off the manual safety and put your finger on the trigger.


67 posted on 09/17/2014 6:55:05 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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A double action revolver like my little Ruger LCR which is my CC is the most foolproof defensive weapon one can carry. A misfire in an automatic in close quarters requires two hands and is potentially a death sentence. On a DA revolver, its a momentary delay.


69 posted on 09/17/2014 7:08:41 PM PDT by anton
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