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Iraq's First Mi-28 'Havoc' Attack Chopper Has Taken To The Air
Jalopnik ^ | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 09/15/2014 4:05:55 AM PDT by wetphoenix

Iraq's first Mi-28 Havoc 'Night Hunter' attack chopper has taken flight in Iraq. These are some of the most heavily armed and capable attack helicopters in the world. Three were delivered alongside four new Mi-35 'Hind' attack helicopters from Russia as part of an expedited order placed to help fight the spread of ISIS.

The Mi-28NE is roughly analogous to the US Army's AH-64D Apache and is adapted to fight at night and in adverse weather conditions. The chopper is armed with a chin-mounted 30mm cannon and can carry up to 16 guided missiles as well as 40 unguided rockets or two gun pods. Igla air-to-air missiles, mine dispensers and bombs can also be carried.

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1 posted on 09/15/2014 4:05:55 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

I find it ironic that they are flying a machine designed and built by western culture and they set it to western movie music. I never saw the pilot who did such fancy maneuvers, but I’ll lay odds he isn’t an Iraqi.


2 posted on 09/15/2014 4:12:32 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

It is fine to have these machines and even fly them well. They are like all sophisticated machines expensive and difficult to maintain.


3 posted on 09/15/2014 4:34:36 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: wetphoenix

Looks like a bulky POS


4 posted on 09/15/2014 4:36:25 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: wetphoenix
Hey if it can turn ISIS into minced meat I'm all for it.
5 posted on 09/15/2014 4:45:15 AM PDT by McGruff (I'm thinkin.)
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To: wetphoenix

Will the peaceniks of the “religion of peace” use the attack chopper on the head-chopper “hijackers” of the “religion of peace” or run and turn the chopper over to the choppers?

Who’s on 1st?


6 posted on 09/15/2014 5:00:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

The question in my mind is did Putin get paid this time?


7 posted on 09/15/2014 5:01:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Yes.
With your tax dollars.


8 posted on 09/15/2014 5:26:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: DariusBane

What bothers me is that we are fighting with 30 and 40 year old machines. We are a generation behind our most likely adversaries. Now out stuff is good, but at some point we need to replace the Apache.

I fear we have focused so much on stealth, we forget that a few super expensive planes and helicopters do not have the same effect as a large number of good robust ones.


9 posted on 09/15/2014 5:29:22 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
...a few super expensive planes and helicopters do not have the same effect as a large number of good robust ones.
Quantity has a quality all its own.

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10 posted on 09/15/2014 5:39:02 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: Gen.Blather

They were designed and built by Russia, which is not generally regarded as Western culture (although Russia has certainly been influenced by it).


11 posted on 09/15/2014 7:21:17 AM PDT by Bill93
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To: Gen.Blather
These are pretty complicated machines....look for the Iraqis to master them in say .. 5 years..
No doubt they come with “operators and machinists” clause in the contract
12 posted on 09/15/2014 8:00:45 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: redgolum

A10 IS A GOOD Example of what you are talking about.


13 posted on 09/15/2014 9:50:27 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

It is the archetype of what I mean.

Which is why the Air Force hates them.


14 posted on 09/15/2014 11:13:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Bill93

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They are a Christian nation. All the while the Soviets were blustering, I never feared because they never dressed up their children in suicide vests and never worshipped death. (Also, the Soviet Union was led by elderly men more concerned with their falling arches and aching hemorrhoids than conquering the world.)

In my book, if nowhere else, a Christian nation is part of western culture.


15 posted on 09/15/2014 1:37:40 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes, it’s true, they are a Christian nation, but they are an Eastern Orthodox Christian nation. The traditional concept of a divide between “Eastern” and “Western” culture started over the divide between the Eastern and Western church. Of course, that divide was later accentuated by the presence of Muslims, and the various Indian and East Asian religions.

Take a look into the theology of Eastern Orthodoxy. It is fascinating, but it’s also a lot more alien to western thought than I ever imagined it could be. I think if I spent the rest of my life living in an Eastern Orthodox country and attended their churches daily, I still don’t think I could really put myself in their mindset; I have a mostly* western mind.

*And I say “mostly” because I’m an American Indian and there are some cultural differences between me and most Americans (though I do come from a tribe that took to Christianity quickly and enthusiastically).


16 posted on 09/15/2014 9:31:18 PM PDT by Bill93
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