Thackney, the industry doesn’t normally run three shifts, so don’t come at me with the idiotic comment that if more shifts would be done if it could be. That’s nonsense and we both know it.
When we had our earthquakes out here in the 90s, we had many overpasses collapse. It was stated that we couldn’t get the job done for years. They went on triple shifts and the jobs did get done. The jobs were done by bid, and the jobs didn’t cost us an arm and a leg to get done. And guess what, people who hadn’t worked in the industry before, did a great job.
In the oil industry, not every person has to be a former or current worker in the industry. Those that have experience can supervise the rest. Those terminals have a lot of grunt work that needs to be done too.
Why don’t you be a little more realistic with your responses? You flat out refusal to admit shifts could be added and the job completed sooner is transparent.
Shipments can be increased. Supplies can be delivered it the daytime to be used on the other shifts.
All it takes is a matter of planning and follow through.
Yes, there are probably things that I don’t understand and you do. I still think we live in the land of ingenuity, and when a big need comes up, we can surprise ourselves.
I simply do not believe nothing could be done to speed up the process.
It isn't normally done because there is significant cost to do so. I have been part of projects that run that way due to emergencies. It is not that it cannot be done, it is not done because of the expense.
They went on triple shifts and the jobs did get done. The jobs were done by bid, and the jobs didn’t cost us an arm and a leg to get done.
If you think there wasn't completion time bonus that paid the expense, you are uninformed.
In the oil industry, not every person has to be a former or current worker in the industry.
But if you are going to weld on pressurized piping systems or work any of dozens of other specific skill required jobs, you are going to need to be experienced. We don't have a real shortage of the guys using shovels. But have 3 times those but not the welders doesn't really help.
Why don’t you be a little more realistic with your responses?
My response are based upon real work for a couple decades in the industry. Not just wishful thinking.
Shipments can be increased.
Yes, on several projects I've had to pay for expedited delivery. It had a cost.
All it takes is a matter of planning and follow through.
Yeah, we never do that. Those refinery turn-arounds where we work 24/7 for weeks or months just happen.
when a big need comes up, we can surprise ourselves.
Absolutely. We can and we do. But the expectation that additional effort, bigger crews, more leadership all happen for free is silly.
Just since you brought up the comparison:
Less than three months after the Northridge earthquake knocked down two sections of the world’s busiest thoroughfare, Gov. Pete Wilson announced Tuesday that the Santa Monica Freeway will reopen next week, ending frustrating delays and bottlenecks for thousands of commuters.
State officials hope the final cleanup of construction work can be completed early April 12 in time to let rush-hour traffic inaugurate the two new freeway bridges at La Cienega and Washington boulevards.
Spurred by the promise of an extra $200,000 a day for every day work was completed ahead of schedule, the contractor, C. C. Myers Inc., will finish the project 74 days before a June 24 deadline and rack up a $14.5-million bonus for the company.
The high-speed construction was made possible by crews working around the clock, seven days a week, and by state officials cutting through red tape.
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-06/news/mn-42778_1_santa-monica-freeway
April 06, 1994
the acceleration did not come without cost. With the bonuses given to C. C. Myers, the price tag on the project rose from the original bid of $14.9 million to nearly $30 million.