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To: DoughtyOne
Thackney, the industry doesn’t normally run three shifts, so don’t come at me with the idiotic comment that if more shifts would be done if it could be. That’s nonsense and we both know it.

It isn't normally done because there is significant cost to do so. I have been part of projects that run that way due to emergencies. It is not that it cannot be done, it is not done because of the expense.

They went on triple shifts and the jobs did get done. The jobs were done by bid, and the jobs didn’t cost us an arm and a leg to get done.

If you think there wasn't completion time bonus that paid the expense, you are uninformed.

In the oil industry, not every person has to be a former or current worker in the industry.

But if you are going to weld on pressurized piping systems or work any of dozens of other specific skill required jobs, you are going to need to be experienced. We don't have a real shortage of the guys using shovels. But have 3 times those but not the welders doesn't really help.

Why don’t you be a little more realistic with your responses?

My response are based upon real work for a couple decades in the industry. Not just wishful thinking.

Shipments can be increased.

Yes, on several projects I've had to pay for expedited delivery. It had a cost.

All it takes is a matter of planning and follow through.

Yeah, we never do that. Those refinery turn-arounds where we work 24/7 for weeks or months just happen.

when a big need comes up, we can surprise ourselves.

Absolutely. We can and we do. But the expectation that additional effort, bigger crews, more leadership all happen for free is silly.

29 posted on 09/09/2014 11:21:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

You complete the job one year earlier than you had projected. You pay a lot more to do so.

Guess what happens that first year. That first year you make a lot of income you wouldn’t have made if you didn’t spend more.

At the end of the first functioning year, you could easily have recouped most of your added expenses.

Perhaps I’m dead wrong. There’s no way to cut the time needed to become operational. I’m not buying it.

You company has already hired every qualified welder in the nation? Really?


31 posted on 09/09/2014 11:28:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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