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America Shouldn't Choose Sides in Iraq's Civil War
Online WSJ ^ | June 19, 2014 7:12 p.m. ET | Rand Paul

Posted on 09/06/2014 10:32:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Obama has made mistakes but so did Bush by invading. There's no good case for U.S. military intervention now.

Though many claim the mantle of Ronald Reagan on foreign policy, too few look at how he really conducted it. The Iraq war is one of the best examples of where we went wrong because we ignored that.

In 1984, Reagan's Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger developed the following criteria for war, primarily to avoid another Vietnam. His speech, "The Uses of Military Power," boils down to this: The United States should not commit forces to combat unless the vital national interests of the U.S. or its allies are involved and only "with the clear intention of winning." U.S. combat troops should be committed only with "clearly defined political and military objectives" and with the capacity to accomplish those objectives and with a "reasonable assurance" of the support of U.S. public opinion and Congress and only "as a last resort."

Much of the rationale for going to war in 2003 did not measure up to the Weinberger Doctrine, and I opposed the Iraq war. I thought we needed to be more prudent about the weightiest decision a country can make. Like Reagan, I thought we should never be eager to go to war. And now, 11 years later, we are still dealing with the consequences.

Today the Middle East is less stable than in 2003. The Iraq war strengthened Iran's influence in Iraq and throughout the Middle East. Sunni extremists backed by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar have filled the vacuum. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has taken over the cities of Mosul, Tikrit and is on the march to Baghdad.

While President Obama said Thursday he will not send "combat troops," he said he is sending 300

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1 posted on 09/06/2014 10:32:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Shut up R___ Paul.


2 posted on 09/06/2014 10:33:38 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: SoConPubbie

Those Pauls are wacky couple of nuts.


3 posted on 09/06/2014 10:37:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: SoConPubbie
Rand Paul: blah blah blah.

His act sure grew old fast.

BTW no ground troops, but we most certainly should choose sides.

4 posted on 09/06/2014 10:37:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoConPubbie

He is right we should not choose sides.

We should destroy every one that opposes us.


5 posted on 09/06/2014 10:37:59 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: skeeter
BTW no ground troops, but we most certainly should choose sides.

Agree, especially if one of those sides is a threat to us and considers itself at war with us.

6 posted on 09/06/2014 10:38:27 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I am so tired of this idiot.


7 posted on 09/06/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: riverrunner

“He is right we should not choose sides. We should destroy every one that opposes us.”

A-MEN!


8 posted on 09/06/2014 10:39:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SoConPubbie

This isn’t a damn civil war...any more than if a bunch of radical canadians came down here and started murdering and torturing our citizens. Rand sure turned out to be a worthless turd.


9 posted on 09/06/2014 10:40:08 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Tzfat

The sane guy in me thinks that these Muslims must be left alone to kill each other off.

The impatient guy in me wants these bearded savages be exterminated as quickly as possible.


10 posted on 09/06/2014 10:41:00 AM PDT by sagar
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To: SoConPubbie

The only reason the middle east is more unstable is that Obama pulled the troops out.

Because of Bush we had a presence right next to Iran and close to Afghanistan and Obama blew it.

Rand Paul is nuts.


11 posted on 09/06/2014 10:41:08 AM PDT by what's up
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12 posted on 09/06/2014 10:41:15 AM PDT by Dallas59
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Yep, respect all, unless their Tea-baggers.


13 posted on 09/06/2014 10:42:45 AM PDT by Son House (Who's going to clean up Bush's mess now? </sarc>)
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To: SoConPubbie

What civil war in Iraq...?

ISIL are not made up of solely Iraqi peoples....

This is a lslamic religious war...not a civil war....


14 posted on 09/06/2014 10:44:40 AM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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"It's none of out b-b-b-business, son."

"Okey-dokey, dur-dur-dur-Dad. Let's wait until they kill a few million Americans"

15 posted on 09/06/2014 10:45:56 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: skeeter

The only people who are worth leaving alive in the region are the Kurds, who have many Christians and Jews among their numbers. We should only hold back on destroying ISIS, Syria, and Iraq if we damage natural resources that we could use. Otherwise, let the firebombs fly!


16 posted on 09/06/2014 10:46:48 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: what's up

Don’t understand how he gets to be a front runner. He’s not getting the conservative endorsement, you really go no where without it.
He’s more of a joke around here than mittens


17 posted on 09/06/2014 10:47:32 AM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Lorraine Bobbitt’s knife has been very busy in D.C.


18 posted on 09/06/2014 10:48:53 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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“Obama has made mistakes, but so did Bush by invading”

The fact that Iraq was pacified and Americans died accomplishing the pacification nullifies the mistake of invading Iraq, if it was a mistake. Their sacrifice was counted as nothing by Obama when he removed all troops. I don’t know how to resolve the situation, but I do know that Obama completely mishandled it from the beginning.


19 posted on 09/06/2014 10:49:35 AM PDT by odawg
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To: RoosterRedux

Those Pauls are wacky couple of nuts.


Wacky is not the word for it- either incompetent or lying is more the case.

We are not seeing a civil war in Iraq, we are seeing an invasion of Iraq by a transnational Jihaidi army of psychopathic, homicidal misfits who have become Al- Qaeda irregulars recruited from all over the world.

Very few of the ISIS embers are from Iraq and those that are are the Saddam dead enders who were part of the terror insurgency and who we ran out of Iraq.


20 posted on 09/06/2014 10:51:03 AM PDT by rdcbn
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