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Police throw book at Shariah vigilantes [Wuppertal, Germany]
The Local ^ | 9/5/2014

Posted on 09/05/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by markomalley

Charges of unlawful assembly and use of uniform in public were brought against 11 members of a group trying to enforce aspects of strict Islamic Sharia law in the North Rhine-Westphalia city, a spokeswoman for the Wuppertal police told The Local.

Officers stopped the 11-man group on the street on Wednesday. Some were wearing orange vests bearing the words 'Shariah Police', in violation of federal German law, the spokeswoman said.

The group has been stopping young people at local drinking and gambling establishments and urging them to abstain from activities deemed to be ungodly according to Islam.

The Wednesday incident was the first time they had directly violated the law, and no formal complaints had been made against them.

"There is no evidence that they have intimated anybody," the spokeswoman said, adding that talks were under way between integration authorities and local mosque leaders to address the situation.

Wednesday was also the day the group created its Facebook account, which by Friday had been 'Liked' by more than 1,500 visitors.

"Can a vest and a name really cause so much headache?" the group posted on its page after the encounter with police.

"What have all the grumblers now coming out of the woodwork done for wayward youth?" it also asked. "Do you realize how many are buying and consuming drugs? If you are so honest and good, where is your shrieking and outrage?"

Don't cross the line, warn police

Meanwhile, the Wuppertal police on Friday released a statement pledging to crack down on anyone seeking to take the law into their own hands, especially with any use of intimidation or force.

"The state has an exclusive monopoly on the use of force," reminded local police chief Birgitta Radermacher. "Any conduct that intimidates, provokes or makes people insecure will not be tolerated. These 'Sharia Police' have no legitimacy," she added.

There had been repeated attempts, especially at night time, by members of the Salafi Islamist community to influence and recruit young people, the statement said.

Police presence in the city centre had been strengthened and citizens were urged to report sightings of the group, which has said it will expand its activities in other towns.

The group reportedly identifies itself with the Salafi movement, an ultra-conservative sub-group within Islam with a strong following in the Middle East. Most of the world's Salafis are from Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia.

Authorities in North Rhine-Westphalia have expressed concern at the implications of ad hoc community 'patrols' by its members here.

"In this way they are demonstrating that they do not recognized our law-based state," an interior ministry spokesperson told the Rheinischer Post newspaper.

The head of the local CDU branch and security expert for the Christian Democrats in the state, Peter Biesenbach, described the situation as an "alarm signal".


TOPICS: Extended News; Germany; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; eussr; germany; intimidation; islam; moralspolice; nrw; policeimpersonation; qatar; rop; salafi; salafis; salafists; saudiarabia; sharia; shariah; shariapolice; uae; wuppertal
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1 posted on 09/05/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Isn’t that how Goering and Himmler got started?


2 posted on 09/05/2014 3:35:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: markomalley

They just keep pushing and pushing. Surprised the police didn’t back down.


3 posted on 09/05/2014 3:36:06 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: markomalley

How long before an accommodation is reached with the Sharia vigilantes?


4 posted on 09/05/2014 3:36:12 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: markomalley

Let’s hear it for the Wuppertal PD! Deutschland gehen!


5 posted on 09/05/2014 3:36:59 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: markomalley

Just waiting to see it happen in the US - as that great street philosopher said “I pity th’ fools”


6 posted on 09/05/2014 3:42:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, absolutely. Absolutely baffles me why Germany even allows these sc*mbags in the country.


7 posted on 09/05/2014 3:43:05 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: markomalley

“The state has an exclusive monopoly on the use of force,” reminded local police chief Birgitta Radermacher

Nice of him to come right out and say that. It makes things......cleaner.


8 posted on 09/05/2014 3:44:10 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: markomalley

Germany came close to banning Scientology in 2007, which while they abandoned the plan in 2008, a ban is still very popular with the public. Imagine the glee of even a proposal to ban Islam?


9 posted on 09/05/2014 3:44:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: markomalley

What the police need to do is run a sting operation. Have a female cop sit at a table in an outside cafe and let one of these IslamoNazis approach her about the way she’s dressed - or the fact that she’s unescorted (let her partner be nearby).

When they try something, wham! Come down on them like white on rice.


10 posted on 09/05/2014 3:45:37 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: markomalley

Hey, whoa, these guys weren’t threatening anybody. They were just giving a little friendly advice that, you know, acid in the face and honor killings just sometimes sort of happen.


11 posted on 09/05/2014 3:45:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lurker

Yeah, I caught that too. A little creepy.


12 posted on 09/05/2014 3:47:47 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: markomalley
"The state has an exclusive monopoly on the use of force," reminded local police chief Birgitta Radermacher.

Just so we know.

13 posted on 09/05/2014 3:48:31 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: markomalley

Good for Germany. Now send them back to their mother nation.


14 posted on 09/05/2014 3:49:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Lurker

That’s what governments are. All governments. A monopoly on the use of force. Always have been.

/johnny


15 posted on 09/05/2014 3:50:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: markomalley

16 posted on 09/05/2014 3:55:38 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh I get it. It’s just that it’s so rare to hear some mid level flunky come out and say so publicly. It thought that to be noteworthy. That’s all.

Best,

L


17 posted on 09/05/2014 3:57:52 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Isn’t that how Goering and Himmler got started?

No, they got their start countering thugs like this. It probably isn't so much that the officials want to crack down on the Muzzis, but rather the knowledge that if they don't, a German popular counterforce will eventually rise up.

18 posted on 09/05/2014 3:59:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: markomalley

Meanwhile the UK allows Shariah courts to operate as part of the legal system


19 posted on 09/05/2014 3:59:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lurker
Yep. He's right, though -

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington

20 posted on 09/05/2014 4:00:14 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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