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Tesla Needs $3B in Tax Breaks for New Battery Factory
Fox Business ^ | September 4, 2014 | Elizabeth McDonald

Posted on 09/04/2014 11:15:35 AM PDT by jazusamo

Nevada looks to be the winner for Tesla Motors’ (TSLA) new $5 billion battery factory, but the win comes at a cost for state taxpayers.

Tesla is seeking up to $3 billion in new tax breaks to help fund about half of its cost for the new battery factory, which Tesla has already disclosed in regulatory filings would be located outside Reno, Nev., about 235 miles from its auto assembly plant in the San Francisco Bay area.

“The total capital expenditures associated with the gigafactory through 2020 are expected to be $4-5 billion (sic), of which approximately $2 billion is expected to come from Tesla,” the company said in its latest regulatory filings.

Although news reports indicate the breaks could amount to $400 million annually, it may be more like $600 million. Nevada beat out California, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona for the new $5 billion battery plant, which is expected to create 6,500 jobs, plus generate economic growth. State legislators are likely betting this growth will offset the costs of the tax breaks.

Tesla needs that $600 million a year through 2020, when its battery factory is expected to be fully operational, because it’s experiencing significant cash burn. It has $2.6 billion in cash versus $4 billion in liabilities. Tesla has also disclosed its overhead costs are now rising 20% on a year-over-year basis, and research and development expenses are increasing 30%. Capital expenditures continue to bear down as Tesla expands the number of factories and charging stations (the count for the latter now stands at 183 globally).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: batteryfactory; elonmusk; incentives; nevada; taxbreaks; taxcredits; tesla
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The first article I've seen that comes out and lists the huge incentives Musk is after.
1 posted on 09/04/2014 11:15:35 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Musk probably needs all the ranchers and turtles kicked off the land he wants to use too. Harry Reid will get right on that.


2 posted on 09/04/2014 11:20:25 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: jazusamo

No more government favoritism. All corporations should have a level playing field


3 posted on 09/04/2014 11:26:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo

Money which the tax man doesn’t collect is not a “cost.” If you get bent out of shape over this, you should see what California does for the film industry.


4 posted on 09/04/2014 11:26:25 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: jazusamo

Once again, “alternative energy” is shown to be simply a way to convert tax money into rewards for Friends of Government.


5 posted on 09/04/2014 11:26:28 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: jazusamo

So, about $50,000 per car?

crazy


6 posted on 09/04/2014 11:27:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo

You get a tax break just by being in state like Nevada which has no state income tax.


7 posted on 09/04/2014 11:27:29 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: jazusamo
Tesla has also disclosed its overhead costs are now rising 20% on a year-over-year basis, and research and development expenses are increasing 30%

Unsustainable, rent seeking... could be the next Solyndra

8 posted on 09/04/2014 11:27:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo
Less money flowing from industry to the government is a good thing.

More tax breaks for all!

9 posted on 09/04/2014 11:27:58 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: mvpel

Yep, and California is broke.


10 posted on 09/04/2014 11:28:01 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: thorvaldr

I was looking for a tie-in as well. But I think the Bundy grazing land was needed for an offset for a solar energy deal with China which Harry Reid’s son, Rory?, was going to get a big commission for putting the deal together.

I think the deal fell through but that was why Harry was so hot and bothered about getting Bundy off the land.


11 posted on 09/04/2014 11:29:00 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: mvpel

So you have no problem with government picking winners and losers? Let us say Ford gets a tax hike while politicians decide GM should be tax free for 20 years.

You would have the same stance?


12 posted on 09/04/2014 11:29:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo

Of course it does.


13 posted on 09/04/2014 11:29:33 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: thorvaldr
all the ranchers and turtles kicked off the land

Are either of those really an issue at the Reno Tahoe Industrial Center?

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-tesla-selects-nevada-battery-plant-200941469.html

Tahoe Reno Industrial Center (TRIC) is a massive 107,000 acre park that encompasses a developable 30,000 acre industrial complex with pre-approved industrial and manufacturing uses.

http://www.tahoereno.com/2014/08/reno-is-teslas-first-choice-as-a-gigafactory-site-but-elon-musk-sets-a-high-price-tag/

14 posted on 09/04/2014 11:31:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: GeronL

Tax, regulatory, and statutory incentives for large new business ventures are just part and parcel of how states compete with each other. Alabama is right-to-work while Massachusetts is not, so Alabama gets the new missile factory and its 300 jobs, for example.

We’re not talking about “tax free for 20 years,” we’re talking about incentives to clear the way for a new business to be built in Nevada to employ thousands of people and generate an entirely new tax and economic base. It’s the government equivalent of “free samples” from the corner drug pusher.


15 posted on 09/04/2014 11:33:26 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: mvpel

every business should get the same deal and the same treatment


16 posted on 09/04/2014 11:35:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Agreed...The subsidies and tax breaks won’t last forever and his cars are out of sight price wise for the average person.

Uncle sugar won’t keep footing the bill.


17 posted on 09/04/2014 11:35:29 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

taxpayers should not be footing the bill for stuff like this, or for stadiums either.


18 posted on 09/04/2014 11:36:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jazusamo
Tax Break = $3 billion

Employees = 6,500

Tax Costs Per Employee = $3,000,000,000/6500 ~= $460,000 per worker

Tax Breaks for 6 years till 2020 so Tax Costs Per Employee Per year = $460,000/6 ~= %76,700

What a rip off. If this goes through bend over tax payers of NV Elon is coming after you.

19 posted on 09/04/2014 11:36:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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every business should get the same deal and the same treatment

Every business does not bring in the quantity of jobs and associated business this deal would bring to the area.

20 posted on 09/04/2014 11:37:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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