Posted on 09/01/2014 3:02:57 AM PDT by markomalley
the Muslim world both secular and religious
There is a secular Muslim world? Who Knew???
Have you ever noted the trend with the "Arab Spring" revolts that the Obama Regime supported (either morally, with non-lethal aid, or with weapons)? The ONE that he didn't support was one against the mullahs: the Green Revolution in Iran. Can you think of any others?
If you'd like, I can dig up some links showing that the US provided support, including eventually weapons, to the "moderate" Syrian rebels. Guess who they joined up with at their first opportunity?
Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that Assad was some kind of a prince, but I find it funny that, throughout the Mideast since the inception of his rule, it always seemed like Obama was on the wrong side.
I’ll clarify it for you.
ISIS is an Islamist organization.
The Muslim Brotherhood is an Islamist organization.
The Free Syrian Army, and other Syrian opposition groups we’ve supported as well as the Kurds are not Islamist organizations. They are not part of ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood. They are at war with them.
Got it?
“The only way to introduce the grand Caliphate that will be acceptable and palatable by the Muslim world both secular and religious is to introduce the non-Wahhabi brand of Sufi Islam, which is considered peaceful by the West. But this will unite both Shiite Iran and Sunni Turkey since Sufis respect Shiite faith and their religious icons, Hassan and Hussein.” — am sure Turkey has visions of reverting to Ottoman Empire days. But Sufi Islam as a theological basis for it is farfetched. Btw, the only muslims who have a problem with sunnis killing shi’ites are shi’ites. And shi’ites only represent 15% of the muslim population at most. Also, whilst i do believe Erdogan is an Islamist & there is support in Turkey for Islamic State (IS), Turkish gov’t so far has not actively supported or funded IS as say Qatar has.
Well. Satan can’t change our free will. But he can manipulate, mislead, deceive, and move people through his massive understanding of humanity, and it’s nature. Satan may have put this into gear but humans have done all the dirty work.
Thank you. I always hate opaque situations.
The Free Syrian Army, and other Syrian opposition groups weve supported … are not Islamist organizations.
I am really glad to hear this from somebody who is in the know like you are. That is truly a relief.
I guess this means that I can disregard articles like this one from the Washington Examiner a year ago:
Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition
President Obama waived a provision of federal law designed to prevent the supply of arms to terrorist groups to clear the way for the U.S. to provide military assistance to "vetted" opposition groups fighting Syrian dictator Bashar Assad.
Some elements of the Syrian opposition are associated with radical Islamic terrorist groups, including al Qaeda, which was responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks in New York, Washington, D.C., and Shanksville, Pa., in 2001. Assad's regime is backed by Iran and Hezbollah.
The president, citing his authority under the Arms Export Control Act, announced today that he would "waive the prohibitions in sections 40 and 40A of the AECA related to such a transaction."
And so the analysis provided by Jane's that only a small portion of the Syrian rebels are not "Islamist" must have been completely off the mark. Therefore, this article, published a year ago in The Telegraph, can also be disregarded:
Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists, says IHS Jane's report
Opposition forces battling Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria now number around 100,000 fighters, but after more than two years of fighting they are fragmented into as many as 1,000 bands.
The new study by IHS Jane's, a defence consultancy, estimates there are around 10,000 jihadists - who would include foreign fighters - fighting for powerful factions linked to al-Qaeda..
Another 30,000 to 35,000 are hardline Islamists who share much of the outlook of the jihadists, but are focused purely on the Syrian war rather than a wider international struggle.
There are also at least a further 30,000 moderates belonging to groups that have an Islamic character, meaning only a small minority of the rebels are linked to secular or purely nationalist groups.
The stark assessment, to be published later this week, accords with the view of Western diplomats estimate that less than one third of the opposition forces are "palatable" to Britain, while American envoys put the figure even lower.
Fears that the rebellion against the Assad regime is being increasingly dominated by extremists has fuelled concerns in the West over supplying weaponry that will fall into hostile hands. These fears contributed to unease in the US and elsewhere over military intervention in Syria.
I'm glad, based upon your statement that The Free Syrian Army, and other Syrian opposition groups weve supported … are not Islamist organizations means that I can disregard information like the above.
So that's greatly comforting.
One question, though, when non-Islamist units defect from the non-Islamist Free Syrian Army to outfits like the Islamist Al Qaeda-affiliated Al Nusra (for example here) or ISIS (for example here or here), do they destroy their US-provided weapons or do they return them to the Free Syrian Army prior to their departure?
http://www.jpost.com/Features/The-Palestinian-terrorist-turned-Zionist
Shoebats claim to have bombed Bank Leumi in Bethlehem is rejected by members of his family who still live in the area, and Bank Leumi says it has no record of such an attack ever taking place. His relatives, members of the Shoebat family, are mystified by the notion of Walid Shoebat being an assumed name. And the Walid Shoebat Foundations working process is less than transparent, with Shoebats claim that it is registered as a charity in the state of Pennsylvania being denied by the Pennsylvania State Attorneys Office. Shoebats claim to have been a terrorist rests on his account of the purported bombing of Bank Leumi. But after checking its files, the bank said it had no record of an attack on its Bethlehem branch anywhere in the relevant 1977-79 period. Shoebat told The Jerusalem Post that this could be because the bank building was robustly protected with steel and that the attack may have caused little damage. Asked whether word of the bombing made the news at the time, he said, I dont know. I didnt read the papers because I was in hiding for the next three days. (In 2004, he had told Britains Sunday Telegraph: I was terribly relieved when I heard on the news later that evening that no one had been hurt or killed by my bomb.) Shoebat could not immediately recall the year, or even the time of year, of the purported bombing when talking to the Post by phone from the US. After wavering, he finally settled for the summer of 1977.
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