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VA says no proof delays in care caused vets to die
Townhall ^ | 8/25/14 | ap

Posted on 08/25/2014 9:48:27 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Veterans Affairs says investigators have found no proof that delays in care caused any deaths at a VA hospital in Phoenix, deflating an explosive allegation that helped expose a troubled health care system in which veterans waited months for appointments while employees falsified records to cover up the delays.

Revelations that as many as 40 veterans died while awaiting care at the Phoenix VA hospital rocked the agency last spring, bringing to light scheduling problems and allegations of misconduct at other hospitals as well. The scandal led to the resignation of former VA Secretary Eric Shinseki. In July, Congress approved spending an additional $16 billion to help shore up the system.

The VA's Office of Inspector General has been investigating the delays for months and shared a draft report of its findings with VA officials.

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KEYWORDS: die; proof; ursulathevk; va; vascandal; vets; zot
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1 posted on 08/25/2014 9:48:27 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 08/25/2014 9:48:59 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, just like there’s no proof that Mike Brown robbed a liquor store, that we went to the moon or that the IRS destroyed all those e-mails.


3 posted on 08/25/2014 9:50:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Nachum

I always wondered about this....If you were dying wouldn’t you got to any hospital, like the closest one?


4 posted on 08/25/2014 9:50:48 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (To be a Liberal is, by definition, to be anti-American.)
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To: Nachum; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

V A ping.


5 posted on 08/25/2014 9:51:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Nachum

Horse hockey.


6 posted on 08/25/2014 9:53:54 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

The V.A. is free or nearly so, other hospitals aren’t. That’s in the mind of many people.


7 posted on 08/25/2014 9:54:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have been going to the VA hospital in Phoenix since 2003. If I was dying I’d go to the one down the street, damn the cost!


8 posted on 08/25/2014 10:00:41 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (To be a Liberal is, by definition, to be anti-American.)
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To: Nachum

Not a “smidgen” of proof. Period.

Liars all.


9 posted on 08/25/2014 10:01:28 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

You’re not every veteran. My V.A. hospital is 46 miles away and my closest local hospital is about 4 miles, so you know what I’d do, but I’m not every veteran, either, plus I’m in priority one, so it wouldn’t cost me a dime, not even the ambulance or helicopter ride. But if I was in priority four or five?


10 posted on 08/25/2014 10:05:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was wondering, “no proof”, did they have any computer crashes? Maybe Louis Lerners computer was sent to them after reformatting?


11 posted on 08/25/2014 10:11:56 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, just like there’s no proof that Mike Brown robbed a liquor store, that we went to the moon or that the IRS destroyed all those e-mails.

WE WENT TO THE MOON??!!

12 posted on 08/25/2014 10:13:52 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Nachum

Consider too how many of those veterans were of a time and age when faith in the gubermint and following protocol was paramount.


13 posted on 08/25/2014 10:14:06 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whole VA story is bad enough without these bullshit claims


14 posted on 08/25/2014 10:17:36 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (To be a Liberal is, by definition, to be anti-American.)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

You don’t think ANY veterans died due to delays in care? Seriously?


15 posted on 08/25/2014 10:19:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who died? Name them.


16 posted on 08/25/2014 10:20:49 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (To be a Liberal is, by definition, to be anti-American.)
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To: Nachum

obamacare folks, get used to this answer. you’ll be hearing it often.


17 posted on 08/25/2014 10:22:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

Are you drinking again? I don’t work at the V.A., how could I name them? Plus, there’s patient privacy.


18 posted on 08/25/2014 10:22:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Nachum

About as accurate as the government unemployment and inflation figures.


19 posted on 08/26/2014 12:37:01 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

There were several families willing to go public about family members dying on the wait list.

You missed all that?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/va-head-18-more-vets-left-off-waiting-list-in-phoenix-area-died/

Nice try, troll.


20 posted on 08/26/2014 12:53:29 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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