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AMERICANS CROSS SEINE ABOVE PARIS, FOE SAYS; U.S. BOMBERS SMASH AT JAPAN’S STEEL INDUSTRY (8/21/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/21/44 | Drew Middleton, A.C. Sedgwick, Herbert L. Matthews, Alexander P. de Seversky, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 08/21/2014 4:18:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
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1 posted on 08/21/2014 4:18:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Northwestern France, 1944 – The Exploitation: Operations, 14-25 August 1944
Southern France, 1944 – Operations in the South, 15-28 August, 1944
Eastern Europe, 1941: Russian Balkan and Baltic Campaigns – Operations, 19 August-31 December 1944
The Western Pacific, New Guinea, and the Philippine Islands: Allied Advances to the Palaus and Morotai, 30 July-17 September 1944 and Air Attacks on the Philippines, 7-22 September 1944
Northern Italy 1944: Allied Advance to Gothic Line, 5 June-25 August and Gains 29 August-31 December
China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, April-December 1944 and Situation 31 December
China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
2 posted on 08/21/2014 4:18:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 08/21/2014 4:19:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
U.S. Sweep Widens (Middleton) – 2-3
Paris Citizens Rise to Oust Germans – 4-5
As the Allied Forces Continued to Close In on the Germans in Northern France (photos) – 4-6
Thrust to Aix-en-Provence Cuts Off Marseille, Toulon (Sedgwick) – 7-8
Paratroops on Job with Maquis Aug. 1 – 8
He is Getting Ready to Step Out (photo) – 8
French Pressing Toulon Defenders (Matthews) – 8
Red Army Gaining – 9-10
B-29’s Strike Twice – 10-11
Force from India Drives into Burma – 11
War News Summarized – 12
Kimmel Disputes Truman on Hawaii – 13
Air Power and the War (de Seversky) – 13
Christians Asked to Overhaul Aims – 13
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 14-16
Rationing at a Glance – 16
The V-2 Rocket Bomb (Baldwin) – 16
Democrats Make Service Vote Plea – 17
Books of the Times (by Orville Prescott) – 17
4 posted on 08/21/2014 4:20:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1944/aug44/21aug44.htm#

Allies pursue broken Germans
Monday, August 21, 1944 www.onwar.com

American bridge over the Seine [photo at link]

On the Western Front... Allied armies advance northeast in pursuit of the broken and retreating German forces. The US 3rd Army develops its bridgeheads over the Seine River. The right flank of its advance reaches Sens.

In Washington... At Dumbarton Oaks, senior Allied representatives meet to discuss postwar security. The senior American representative is Edward Stettinius, the British delegation is led by Sir Alexander Cadogan while the Soviet leader is Andrei Gromyko.


5 posted on 08/21/2014 4:22:28 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/21.htm

August 21st, 1944 (MONDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: Submarines HMS Tapir and Votary launched. Submarine Zeehond launched. Frigate HMS Loch Katrine launched.

Corvette HMCS Leaside commissioned, South Bank-on-Tees.

Corvette HMCS Alberni sunk while streaming south at fourteen knots in fair weather with a NNE wind of five knots but State Four seas for the rendezvous, sweeping by asdic eighty-degrees on either bow, radar operating. “Hands to Dinner” had just been piped. Four minutes later, with no asdic warning whatsoever, she was hit by a torpedo on her port side just aft of the engine room. In less than 10 seconds she was awash from the funnel aft, listing to port and sinking fast. In another twenty seconds she was gone, sinking stern first. Most of the off-watch hands were trapped in their mess decks, and only one stoker escaped from the engine and boiler rooms. Alberni was sunk by U-480 OLtsZ Hans-Joachim FÖRSTER CO, at 1141, 25 miles SE. of St. Catherine’s Point, Isle of Wight, 50-18N 00-51W. 59 crew members were lost (Alex Gordon and Dave Shirlaw)(108)

FRANCE: A rapid advance across northern France begins by Allied units in pursuit of retreating German units.

Falaise: The “Falaise Pocket” was finally closed today two weeks after the Canadian First Army mounted Operation Totalize to cut off the otherwise encircled German forces. It has been a bloody battle, with Allied aircraft supporting the land forces with Typhoon and P-47 rocket-firing fighter-bombers, and to the end the Germans fought with almost fanatical determination.

Some 30,000 Germans managed to escape across the Seine after Hitler yesterday allowed Field Marshal Walter Model, who replaced von Kluge four days ago, to withdraw. Model has now told Hitler that the Seventh Army can no longer function as a fighting force. But 50,000 Germans have been captured along with considerable stocks of equipment. An estimated 10,000 Germans were killed. The way is now open for a speedy advance towards Paris.

The town of Falaise had fallen by 17 August after determined resistance by the 12th SS Panzer Division. But remnants of the German 5th Panzerarmee and Seventh Army remained in the pocket, with a narrow gap between Falaise and Argentan allowing them to escape. Today Canadian, British and Polish forces pressing in from the north linked up with the US First Army driving from Argentan to the south, with Allied aircraft strafing the Germans as they retreated over wreckage-strewn roads.

The US 3rd Army patrols reach Versailles.
The US VI Corps is advancing on Aix-en-Provence and French forces on their left are moving on Toulon and Marseilles in the south of France.
In southern France, US Twelfth Air Force fighter-bombers and fighters again blast enemy communications lines and gun positions and motor transport and train cars.

Flower class corvette HMS Orchis is mined off Juno Beach, Normandy in Baie de la Seine at Courselles-sur-Mer. Her bows are blown off as far back as the gun, and she is beached as a constructive loss.

U-963 During a crash dive at night (0017hrs) in the Bay of Biscay a man was lost overboard. [Bootsmaat Hans Reiter].

GERMANY: U-3514 laid down.

U.S.S.R.: The Soviet 3rd Baltic and Leningrad Fronts move forward on both sides of Lake Peipus. Sandomierz on the west bank of the Vistula River falls to the First Ukraine Front. (John Nicholas)
German forces of Heeresgruppe Mitte retake Tukkum in Estonia, re-establishing contact with Heeresgruppe Nord (Schoerner).

At 20.45 hours, the British destroyer HMS Keppel got a contact on her starboard quarter, while escorting the convoy JW-59 in position 73.01N, 03.57E - Grid AB 5456, 220 miles south-west of Bear Island. Together with HMS Kite (U 87) and a Swordfish aircraft from the British escort carrier HMS Vindex the U-boat was attacked with hedgehogs and depth charges. They hunted the U-boat throughout the night with their foxers (Anti Gnat devices) streamed, but the hunt was fruitless. At 06.40 hours on 21 August, HMS Kite had slowed down to 6 knots to clear her foxers, which had become twisted around one another. At this vulnerable moment, U-344 (Kapitanleutnant Ulrich Pietsch) fired a spread of three FAT torpedoes at the sloop, misidentified as Dido-class light cruiser by Pietsch. The ship was struck by two torpedoes on the starboard side and heeled over to that side immediately. The stern broke off, floated for a few seconds, then sank. The bow remained afloat for a minute and then sank at a steep angle. At 07.30 hours, HMS Keppel stopped to pick up survivors, while the British sloops HMS Peacock and HMS Mermaid screened the rescue operation. There are 183 casualties. Only 14 of the about 60 survivors in the water could be rescued from the ice cold water, five of them died on board and were later buried at sea. (Dave Shirlaw and Alex Gordon)(108)

ITALY : The US Fifteenth Air Force dispatches 117 B-24s, escorted by P-51 Mustangs, to bomb Nish Airfield, Yugoslavia. 102 B-24s, with P-51 escort, hit Hajduboszormeny Airfield, Hungary which 46 other P-51s sweep, some making low-level strafings on parked aircraft.

HUNGARY: During the day, 102 B-24 Liberators of the USAAF’s Fifteenth Air Force in Italy visually bomb Boszormeny Airfield at Hajdu with the loss of two B-24s. During the night of 21/22 August, 70 RAF Liberators of No. 205 Group visually bomb Szony Airfield at Komoron with the loss of three aircraft.

YUGOSLAVIA: During the day, 117 B-24 Liberators of the USAAF’s Fifteenth Air Force in Italy visually bomb the airfield at Nis without loss.

MEDITERRANEAN SEA: U-230 runs aground in the Toulon roadsteads, France, in position 43.07N, 06.00E. She is scuttled by her crew during the Allied invasion of southern France. All 50 crewmen survive.

JAPAN: Sixty-one Chengtu, China based B-29s assigned to the 40th BG attacked the Imperial Iron and Steel Works at Yawata on a daylight mission. Yawata, one of the B-29s primary targets flown from the forward air bases in China, was located on Kyushu Island near the Shimonoseki Strait at the north end of the island. The raid cost fourteen B-29s (one to AAA, four to Japanese fighters, one to ramming by a Japanese fighter, and one to aerial bombing from a Japanese aircraft above the bomber formation).

The crew of a 40th BG aircraft 42-24829 assigned to the 395th BS, “What Happened?” bailed out near Vladivostok. The pilot, Maj. Richard McGlinn, rescued forty-four days later, had nearly starved to death. The crew consisted of:
Aircraft cmdr/pilot, Maj. Richard M. McGlinn.
Co-pilot, 1st. Lt. Ernest E. Claude.
Flight engineer, 1st. Lt. Aiman W Conrath.
Bombardier, 1st Lt. Eugene C. Murphy.
Navigator, 2d. Lt. LyIe C. Turner.
Radar operator, SSgt. Melvin O. Webb.
CFC/gunner, SSgt. William T Stocks.
Tail gunner, SSgt. Charles H. Robson.
Right gunner, Sgt. John G. Beckley.
Left gunner, Sgt. Louis M. Mannatt.
Radio operator, Sgt. Otis Childs. (Mike Yared)(286)

PALAU ISLANDS: Radar-equipped B-24s of the US Thirteenth Air Force continue their nightly sorties against Japanese positions.

CANADA: Minesweeper HMCS Quinte completed refit Pictou, Nova Scotia and attached to HMCS Cornwallis as training ship Digby, Nova Scotia. Corvette HMCS Asbestos departed Bermuda after workups for St John’s and EG C-2

Frigate HMCS Runnymede arrived Halifax from Bermuda workups. Frigates HMCS Kirkland Lake and Loch Alvie commissioned.

U.S.A.: The Dumbarton Oaks Conference begins. This conference marks the beginning discussions about a post-war assembly that will become the United Nations. Stettinius for the US, Cadogan for Britain and Gromyko for the USSR are in attendance. The conference will last through the 29th.

The motion picture “When Strangers Marry” is released today. Directed by William Castle, this mystery stars Robert Mitchum, Kim Hunter, Dean Jagger and Rhonda Fleming. A naive small-town girl (Hunter) goes to New York City to meet her husband (Jagger) and learns he may be a murderer. Her ex-boyfriend (Mitchum) plays it cool in his first important role.

Coast Guard-manned Army vessel FS-192 was commissioned at New Orleans with LTJG C. J. Stevenson, USCGR, first commanding officer. He was succeeded on 29 November l944 by LTJG Charles W. Shannon, USCG. She was assigned to and operated in the Southwest Pacific area. and

ARCTIC OCEAN: Whilst escorting convoy JW.59 (Loch Ewe, Scotland to Kola Fjord, U.S.S.R.), RN sloop HMS Kite (U 87) is torpedoed and sunk about 268 nautical miles (495 kilometres) west-southwest of Bjornoya (Bear Island), Norway, by U-344 (Kapitanleutnant Ulrich Pietsch) using a spread of FAT torpedoes which ran a wandering course with regular 180-degree turns. There are 183 casualties and just 9 survivors. Position is 73 01N, 03 57E.

ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-743 is listed as missing in the Arctic Ocean or the North ATLANTIC OCEAN with all hands, 50 men.

U-766 is stricken near La Pallice, in position 46.10N, 01.14W, when unable to put to sea and surrendered to France.


6 posted on 08/21/2014 4:23:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Anoreth; henkster; colorado tanker; Hebrews 11:6

Did you notice the French Resistance boy in the picture on page 6 has a little pirate pennant on his gun?


7 posted on 08/21/2014 4:43:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Harry Truman was a terrible liar.


8 posted on 08/21/2014 4:48:35 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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12,000 pounds of explosives!?! Great Scott! That V-2 thingy will be an incredible weapon. Still... I don’t know where Hanson gets his information but I highly doubt a souped up fourth of July rocket could hit London, clear from Germany. Those things are never that reliable.


9 posted on 08/21/2014 5:49:47 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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That’s a pretty good shot of Hillary on Page 6.


10 posted on 08/21/2014 5:51:34 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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She’s a collaborator. That’s why she was able to get enough food to acquire that rump.


11 posted on 08/21/2014 6:49:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah, he’s a regular Jean Lafitte, isn’t he?

Interesting note; I didn’t post some areas of the German situation maps in the rear areas of German occupied France, but there were zones just off the edge of the American advance that the Germans identified as “Terroristen.” Apparently the FFI did more or less take control over areas in advance of Patton’s troops.


12 posted on 08/21/2014 7:06:59 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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Baldwin’s information is usually good, and his insights better. And sometimes, I wonder if he knows things he’s not letting on.

He was generally correct that a V2 program would require a lot of support infrastructure. The cost was staggering, too. I’ve seen estimates that the V-1 and V-2 programs cost more than the Manhattan Project. He was also generally correct about the nature of such a weapon.

Where he was incorrect is in the altitude the weapon would reach. The V2 got a lot higher than 60,000 feet; more like 60 miles, and had a range of about 200-225 miles.

What he hasn’t mentioned is the possibility of using a warhead with something considerably more powerful than conventional explosives. If that could be done, the V2 might be something after all.


13 posted on 08/21/2014 7:19:58 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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That’s very interesting. The FFI had put together some fairly large units by this time, and they were getting supplies successfully from the Allies and taking them from the Germans. A lot got killed, of course.


14 posted on 08/21/2014 8:03:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: iowamark; henkster; Homer_J_Simpson

Truman wasn’t there in 1941, so anything he says about it must be second or third hand.
IIRC, Kimmel will never get his “fair trial” under Democrat administrations & Congresses, intent on protecting the F.D.R. myth & legacy.

His honor was only partly restore under Newt Gingrich’s leadership, 50 some years later.


15 posted on 08/21/2014 8:49:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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My position re/Kimmel, as previously stated, is that he had little or no fault for the loss of the fleet at Pearl Harbor. While in port, the responsibility for the defense of the fleet was on the army, under the command of General Walter Short. In my opinion, Short was an overage officer not suited for command. He let Kimmel down.

Short, to his credit, didn’t seem to object to his censure. I think he knew he’d failed.


16 posted on 08/21/2014 9:03:33 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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Sorry, a correction: it was the US Senate, not Newt Gingrich, which in 1999 voted 52-47 to exonerate Kimmel & Short, and requested President Clinton to restore their previous ranks.

Neither Clinton, nor Bush II, nor Obama felt moved by the Senate resolution.

17 posted on 08/21/2014 9:17:34 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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If the resolution exonerated both Kimmel and Short, and if it were up to m,e I would have refused to sign it. Short did not deserve exoneration.


18 posted on 08/21/2014 9:24:18 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster
The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was certainly a "high concept" operation, as unexpected by Kimmel & Short as were the attacks of September 11, 2001.

That Kimmel & Short were unprepared for what hit them is strictly a function of the dearth of intelligence about Japanese activities.
Admiral Nimitz later argued it was a good thing Kimmel was so unprepared, because had it been otherwise, Kimmel would have sailed out of Pearl to meet the Japanese, and would have lost far more ships & men in deep seas from which they could not be recovered.

Short, it seems, was clueless -- he expected to fight-off a Japanese landing force, after the US navy was defeated & sunk, so that's what he was ready for.

The question of fore-knowledge by "higher-ups" in Washington is not answerable today, given they all admitted to expecting attacks on such places as the Philippines or Guam, but certainly not Pearl Harbor.
But circumstantial evidence suggests they knew more than they passed along to Kimmel & Short.

19 posted on 08/21/2014 10:00:36 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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We've had our disagreements regarding Pearl Harbor and who knew what when. I don't think anyone in Washington expected war would begin with an attack on Hawaii. It was clearly a mistake of being prepared for what you thought your enemy would do, instead of being prepared to counter what he could do. And that was a failure shared by Marshall, Short, Stark and Kimmel.

Ultimately, however, it was Short's job, as the man on the spot, to defend the Hawaiian Military District. He failed to do so.

20 posted on 08/21/2014 11:05:08 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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