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The 35.4 Percent: 109,631,000 on Welfare
CNS ^ | August 20, 2014 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 08/20/2014 7:09:30 AM PDT by xzins

109,631,000 Americans lived in households that received benefits from one or more federally funded "means-tested programs" — also known as welfare — as of the fourth quarter of 2012, according to data released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.

The Census Bureau has not yet reported how many were on welfare in 2013 or the first two quarters of 2014.

But the 109,631,000 living in households taking federal welfare benefits as of the end of 2012, according to the Census Bureau, equaled 35.4 percent of all 309,467,000 people living in the United States at that time.

When those receiving benefits from non-means-tested federal programs — such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment and veterans benefits — were added to those taking welfare benefits, it turned out that 153,323,000 people were getting federal benefits of some type at the end of 2012.

Subtract the 3,297,000 who were receiving veterans' benefits from the total, and that leaves 150,026,000 people receiving non-veterans' benefits.

The 153,323,000 total benefit-takers at the end of 2012, said the Census Bureau, equaled 49.5 percent of the population. The 150,026,000 taking benefits other than veterans' benefits equaled about 48.5 percent of the population.

When America re-elected President Barack Obama in 2012, we had not quite reached the point where more than half the country was taking benefits from the federal government.

It is a reasonable bet, however, that with the implementation of Obamacare — with its provisions expanding Medicaid and providing health-insurance subsidies to people earning up to 400 percent of poverty — that if we have not already surpassed that point (not counting those getting veterans benefits) we soon will.

What did taxpayers give to the 109,631,000 — the 35.4 percent of the nation — getting welfare benefits at the end of 2012?

82,679,000 of the welfare-takers lived in households where people were on Medicaid, said the Census Bureau. 51,471,000 were in households on food stamps. 22,526,000 were in the Women, Infants and Children program. 20,355,000 were in household on Supplemental Security Income. 13,267,000 lived in public housing or got housing subsidies. 5,442,000 got Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. 4,517,000 received other forms of federal cash assistance.

How do you put in perspective the 109,631,000 people taking welfare, or the 150,026,000 getting some type of federal benefit other than veterans' benefits?

Well, the CIA World Factbook says there are 142,470,272 people in Russia. So, the 150,026,000 people getting non-veterans federal benefits in the United States at the end of 2012 outnumbered all the people in Russia.

63,742,977 people live in the United Kingdom and 44,291,413 live in the Ukraine, says the CIA. So, the combined 108,034,390 people in these two nations was about 1,596,610 less than 109,631,000 collecting welfare in the United States.

It may be more telling, however, to compare the 109,631,000 Americans taking federal welfare benefits at the end of 2012 to Americans categorized by other characteristics.

In 2012, according to the Census Bureau, there were 103,087,000 full-time year-round workers in the United States (including 16,606,000 full-time year-round government workers). Thus, the welfare-takers outnumbered full-time year-round workers by 6,544,000.

California, the nation's most-populated state, contained an estimated 38,332,521 people in 2013, says the Census Bureau. Texas had 26,448,193 people, New York had 19,651,127, and Florida had 19,552,860. But the combined 103,984,701 people in these four massive states still fell about 5,646,299 short of the 109,631,000 people on welfare.

In the fourth quarter of 2008, when President Obama was elected, there were 96,197,000 people living in households taking benefits from one or more federal welfare programs. After four years, by the fourth quarter of 2012, that had grown by 13,434,000.

Those 13,434,000 additional people on welfare outnumbered the 12,882,135 people the Census Bureau estimated lived in Obama's home state of Illinois in 2013.


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There is no way that any nation can continue to rack up this kind of expense, have near the lowest labor participation rate in its history, add a HUGE new entitlement program, and keep its head above water.

If interest rates rise for any reason, then the nation's budget becomes mush as interest payments on the national debt soar.

1 posted on 08/20/2014 7:09:30 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Andy you thought the riots over the fully-justified shooting of Michael Brown were bad? Wait until all of those people get their bennies cut when the economy collapses. You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.


2 posted on 08/20/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: xzins

It’s just a matter of time.We’re doomed to civil war,insurrection and the destruction of the Republic.


3 posted on 08/20/2014 7:12:39 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: xzins

had a 200 pound small height woman in front of me the other day.
We pay nearly 300 a week for food etc, and yet she had twice as much as us.

3 parts she paid for.
One welfare food stamp card for food, next a flimsy paper card for toilet paper etc, and another card for utensils etc.

No wonder she was laughing a joking in front of us.

Saw her later getting in her nice new vehicle, but I can’t say anything as that would be racist.

Also ever noticed that those on welfare are not that thin, so they are hardly starving.


4 posted on 08/20/2014 7:13:38 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: xzins

Conservatives keep talking about a “tipping point.” With one hundred million people getting some type of transfer payment, we already are passed the tipping point. We are in a Welfare State death spiral where people don’t have the maturity or emotional toughness to cut back on transfer payments. The answers keep coming back to “have someone else pay for it” by either borrowing or taxing the mythical “rich.”


5 posted on 08/20/2014 7:13:54 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: xzins
You are correct and the trend is moving in the wrong direction.

Something has to give. If the trend is reversed, there will be a soft landing. The trend will not be reversed. There will be a very, very, hard landing, as in lots of deaths.

6 posted on 08/20/2014 7:14:30 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When interest rates begin to rise, then look out. Trouble’s coming.

Two of England’s major banks were calling for interest increases yesterday, I think. That will come here.

My bank is paying .1% for a savings account. I didn’t say 1%. I said .1%. That cannot sustain. I saw 2% on a FIVE YEAR CD being offered by some bank.


7 posted on 08/20/2014 7:15:26 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

REDISTRIBUTION -— What Hussein promised to Joe-the-Plumber in 2008


8 posted on 08/20/2014 7:15:28 AM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo on changing 'Global Warming' to 'Climate Change'!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

well, we have fully 1/3 of people in this country on public assistance of some kind.

Can a nation survive long term with such a dependent class?


9 posted on 08/20/2014 7:16:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: xzins

I agree.

Why does nonworking American make many times more than the unskilled worker of China?

I’m thinking it is because they are being held up by all the skilled capitalists in USA, but as that number drops, our unskilled or nonworking will head towards Chinese pay levels.


10 posted on 08/20/2014 7:16:41 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: xzins

The only thing that lets this farce continue is the US dollar reserve currency status. The day that ends is the day the entire rotten structure comes crashing down.


11 posted on 08/20/2014 7:19:40 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: xzins

Add in the State and local transfer payment recipients.


12 posted on 08/20/2014 7:19:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: xzins

The only solution is millions of illegal immigrants!!!


13 posted on 08/20/2014 7:21:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: xzins

14 posted on 08/20/2014 7:21:45 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Gerald Celente, who has been right more often than not, predicted this would happen. Timing? Maybe not so much, end state? Celente nails it.

People will explode when they lose the freebies.

The question is when? This year? Next year? This decade? Manipulation of currencies and markets, the glut of 660 trillion in debt worldwide is already well beyond any fix imaginable.

People will die. It will not end well for any but the elite. They will have food, water, shelter and medical care while the world burns around them.

Well, I just depressed myself. However, I am open to anyone that has a brighter future scenario to share.


15 posted on 08/20/2014 7:21:54 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: xzins

And this welfare can never be reduced without riots not unlike America has never seen before. Millions will tear America apart.

By the way once again, miss Romney yet. That was the biggest mistake millions of ignorant Americans will regret. You have taken the biggest part in America’s destruction.


16 posted on 08/20/2014 7:22:03 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: MNDude

And when the ChiCom types take over, then they will STOP handing out money and will make the peasants work for their gruel. Some ask why the Chamber of Commerce supports socialist policies and illegal immigration. Probably because money and power are interchangeable depending on the governmental system in which you live.

They consider themselves the elite now. They think they’ll also be the elite then. And power in a socialist system is as good as money in a social corporatist system.


17 posted on 08/20/2014 7:22:10 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: manc

No joke - I saw a woman a year or two ago get into a $125,000 Dodge Viper. Very nice, as you might imagine.

It was at a QuikTrip. Yep, just like was destroyed in Ferguson.

One of the clerks was talking about how a woman just paid in food stamps. I believe it was her. The timing was too close.


18 posted on 08/20/2014 7:23:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Is that not insanity?!

Why would any sane nation add millions more to its already huge welfare rolls? The only answer: ulterior motive.


19 posted on 08/20/2014 7:23:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins





Barack Hussein Obama Junior is the chief coward of barack cowards like Eric Holder

(Holder is an admitted rioter with an illegal handgun in college)






20 posted on 08/20/2014 7:24:00 AM PDT by devolve (- next : a very special guest appearance by Ms. Baracka Husseina Obamamama -)
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To: Farmer Dean

I believe these are the reasons that America does not seem prominent in End-Times Bible prophecy.

We must be (or should I say potentially be) absorbed into NAU or some other NWO baloney.

Aye carumba.


21 posted on 08/20/2014 7:25:13 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: xzins

Yes, it’s quite clear. TPTB /tinfoil and their operatives are obviously trying to destroy the country.

And they’re right in our faces about it.

Liberals, however, seem as blind as can be.

The idiots may very well have finished us off with their clown prince and company.


22 posted on 08/20/2014 7:27:16 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: manc

Welfare isn’t about sustaining the sub-humans; it is about redistributing money to businesses where said sub-humans are housed. How many millionaires got rich by saving their public assistance cash benefits?

The sacrifice of their children to violent crime is the price of their laziness.


23 posted on 08/20/2014 7:28:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the population data on the occupants of OBAMANATION, fully funded by Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner, of course.


24 posted on 08/20/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
We are in a Welfare State death spiral where people don’t have the maturity or emotional toughness to cut back on transfer payments.

After watching Paul Ryan on Morning Joe today, I'm convinced our legislators don't have the maturity or emotional toughness to slow down this runaway train.

25 posted on 08/20/2014 7:30:01 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: F15Eagle

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- In my locale illegal aliens have multiple ID’s and aliases and drive leased new triple black Caddy’s & Lincoln’s as they pull up to one of the many check cashing/wiring funds businesses


26 posted on 08/20/2014 7:30:02 AM PDT by devolve (- next : a very special guest appearance by Ms. Baracka Husseina Obamamama -)
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To: Farmer Dean

Tipping point.
Dead man walking.

No way 150 million will ever vote to terminate
their own benefits.


27 posted on 08/20/2014 7:31:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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FR Needs Donors To Survive

Please Donate!

28 posted on 08/20/2014 7:31:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; xzins

The “Gibsmedat Army” vastly outnumbers the Tea Party. We’re screwed.


29 posted on 08/20/2014 7:31:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Farmer Dean

We are living in a house of cards. The soaring national debt will eventually crush the economy and bring it all down. You’re right, just a matter of time now.


30 posted on 08/20/2014 7:34:56 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kozak

Russia and China are working to demolish that structure. They have already established new mechanisms to circumvent the dollar.


31 posted on 08/20/2014 7:37:02 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: F15Eagle
LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE THE REAL PROBLEM. We bring in 1.1 million legal immigrants a year and have been doing so since 1990. They use welfare benefits to a greater extent than the native born. We are importing poverty.

As the Census Bureau does in many of its publications, we report welfare use based on whether the household head is an immigrant or native. With regard to immigrant households, this means we are mainly reporting welfare use for immigrants and their U.S.-born children who live with them and comparing them to natives and their children. Table 12 shows the percentage of immigrant‑ and native‑headed households in which at least one member of the household uses one or more major welfare programs. The definition of programs is as follows: cash assistance: Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), state administered general assistance, and Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which is for low-income elderly and disabled persons; food assistance: Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), informally known as food stamps, free and subsidized school lunch, and the Women, Infants, and Children nutrition program (WIC); housing assistance: subsidized and government-owned housing. The table also shows figures for Medicaid, the health insurance program for those with low incomes.


32 posted on 08/20/2014 7:42:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: xzins

Obama/Democrats only mention the “middle class” during election season, but nobody mentions the now 35% according to this. I guess everybody knows this 35% does not vote.

The funny thing is that these 35% or so actually think Democrats are with them, in the same way majority of blacks feel the Dems are with them.

What`s my point? I have no point, just saying.


33 posted on 08/20/2014 7:48:46 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: F15Eagle

I have no problem with people struggling, I will give my time and money to them , but driving a nice vehicle, a new one, and getting manicures, facials , top hairdressing while on welfare and being obese where they obviously are not going short on food pisses me off to no end and not one person with a public voice can state this , because of fear.

Wife does her own nails, she is actually good, she gets cheap haircuts at the same place where my barber is. She goes to good will for a lot of her clothes. We have not had a vacation in years and yesterday we had our 19th anniversary and never been on a honey moon.

We pay our way, we don’t take welfare, we make our kids their own lunches etc, We drive just normal cars which the newest is 7 years old.
We live in a small house but it is ours and we pay for it.

I;m sick of seeing people abuse the system and play the race card , or whites having white guilt and making excuses for others, black or white.


34 posted on 08/20/2014 7:53:53 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: xzins

Yeah this country is finished-society and govn policy has pushed past the point of no return. The liberals have destroyed the country. The dark days, collapse of all infrastructure, and die off are coming. When? Months? Years? Probably not a decade. It’s been a good ride cowboy.


35 posted on 08/20/2014 7:57:07 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: the anti-mahdi
People will die. It will not end well for any but the elite. They will have food, water, shelter and medical care while the world burns around them. Well, I just depressed myself. However, I am open to anyone that has a brighter future scenario to share.

Yes.

At least we will have dogs.


36 posted on 08/20/2014 7:57:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: TnTnTn
Yeah this country is finished-society and govn policy has pushed past the point of no return. The liberals have destroyed the country. The dark days, collapse of all infrastructure, and die off are coming. When? Months? Years? Probably not a decade. It’s been a good ride cowboy


37 posted on 08/20/2014 7:59:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: xzins
When America re-elected President Barack Obama in 2012, we had not quite reached the point where more than half the country was taking benefits from the federal government.

Incorrect. "The federal government" has no money. This money is coming from the few people that still have jobs.

38 posted on 08/20/2014 7:59:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins
Our 1% ers (ruling elites living in gated communities) might want to read up on the French Revolution.


39 posted on 08/20/2014 8:00:24 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: the anti-mahdi

Sept 13, 2015.


40 posted on 08/20/2014 8:01:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

I’m going to join those roles in 11 months. My wife will turn 62 and we’re taking her Social Security as soon as possible.


41 posted on 08/20/2014 8:03:24 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: jpsb

Check out the dude in the top hat.

Death and destruction all around. And all he can look at is the tits......Men haven’t changed a whole lot over the years have they?


42 posted on 08/20/2014 8:04:53 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: saleman

LOL! “Plus ça change...” indeed.


43 posted on 08/20/2014 8:06:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kjam22

I know one who did it at 62 and got a letter saying they’ll keep it if he makes more than 17 or 18 thousand a year. I don’t know if that was just him, or if they counted his still-working wife’s income

I guess you’re doomed to let them keep it until nobody in your household is working? But maybe I don’t understand the rules.


44 posted on 08/20/2014 8:07:59 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: the anti-mahdi

I don’t believe the “elite” will be exempt. What will make them elite? Money that will be worthless? Alliegences when there will be no alliegences? I think they will be the least prepared and the hardest hit.


45 posted on 08/20/2014 8:09:49 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Night Hides Not

They do in this world but not in the collapsed world.


46 posted on 08/20/2014 8:12:18 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: xzins

We’re both early retired. There is a dollar value that your income has to be under, or they start reducing the social security benefit. But I’m told that “hurdle” does not apply to investment income. Capital Gains.


47 posted on 08/20/2014 8:13:34 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: xzins

Land of the free(bie), Home of the Wards-of-the-State.


48 posted on 08/20/2014 8:14:05 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: the anti-mahdi
It will not end well for any but the elite.

There are plenty of people who will make it their mission in life, after such a collapse, to hunt down and 'bring justice' to the social engineers and life-long politicians responsible. They will NOT spend a day of their lives without fear of what is coming.

49 posted on 08/20/2014 8:18:11 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: xzins
The rules are complicated. As I understand them, you can make up to approximately $15K while drawing early SS. After that, you lose $1 in benefits for $2 of W-2 income. I don't believe spousal W-2 income is included.

I'm planning on doing the same thing when I turn 62. With my other pension and early SS, I'll be able to pay the bills. I'm planning on doing other things with my life, such as herding my youngest son and grandson. I'm considering a number of options, and I'm looking forward to having the freedom to pursue those options.

I also plan to become more involved with a Tea Party group in my area. I plan on mostly full, busy days.

50 posted on 08/20/2014 8:29:02 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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