Posted on 08/19/2014 3:50:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
“Shortly after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait that year, the propaganda machine began agitating for a US attack on Iraq”
LOST ME RIGHT THERE
I was in the middle of that one and the world and even the vaunted UN was pretty much in unanimous conclusion that Saddam needed to be booted, by force if necessary
I also recall Bush41 giving Saddam a 5 month deadline (FIVE MONTHS- D’OH! August 2 to January 16) to comply with UN resolutions to withdraw and starting the bombing within 24 hours of Saddam’s 5 MONTHS of thumbing his nose at the UN and the world
We all supported W at the time, but in hindsight, the support or love one has of the man should not neutralize the rational questions and observations RP makes. Who hasn't doubted the decision to waste blood and resources on that desert hell hole?
That’s right. I don’t know why the “Barf Alert” was included here, when most of the points he raises here are absolutely on target.
And most of that occupation took place under that "compassionate conservative" George W. Bush, who enjoyed a lot of support from Christian voters.
Some people go through life just begging to be conned, don't they?
Last week, however, it was determined that only about 2,000 were on the mountain and many of them had been living there for years! They didn’t want to be rescued!
First I’ve heard this, where did Loon Paul get this?
I always wished they have never said a damn thing about WMD’s in the first place... From the day it was said and questioned, not a hindsight sort of thing, Just thought it was un-needed, as I supported going and taking Saddam out purely because of multiple UN violations and continually shooting at US planes and pilots daily flying UN missions... I think they found enough banned stuff including plans to restart programs plus Chemical weapons that are fairly commonly thought to have gone to Syria to Justify it anyway, but I just wish they would have taken the opportunity and forced the spineless UN to finally have some teeth!
This is why I added the barf alert. Ron Paul forgets or ignores that Kuwait asked President George H.W. Bush for help
See post# 9 in my reply to silverleaf
What have we accomplished in Missouri? For that matter, what have we accomplished in the US or DC for the last 6 years?
I supported it initially, to wipe out the Islamofascists. But we didn't; there's more now than there ever were, and they are on the threshold of re-constituting their Caliphate.
So, really, what was accomplished? We lost so many precious lives in vain.
Kuwait is just another Arab Muslim country.....They’ve sent money to terrorists too.
Not all of us. Some of us even warned about the unConstitutional Patriot Act, the creation of Homeland Security and the TSA. We had Sadame in a box, he was going no where. W's war in Iraq was a bad idea. Pulling US Forces after the surge was a horrible idea. Saving the Kurds from ISIS is a very good idea. As usual Ron Paul get's it half right and half horribly wrong.
The first Gulf war was to protect the petrol dollar, the petrol dollar is vital to American interests. HW just should have let Swarcoff (sp) finish the job (battle of annihilation) on the highway to hell.
The problem is we aren’t going to “save” the Kurds either we’re going to do to them what we’ve done before, we’ll stop support to early and leave them in the lurch. Especially with this president in charge.
You were right in saying we pulled out if Iraq too early and that’s my point here. That wasn’t Bush’s idea though as far as I know. Bush said near the end if his presidency that a status of forces agreement was vital for keeping Iraq stable. He left office before the negotiations for it and Obummer screwed that up too.
Again, this is the basic problem with our foreign policy: we aren’t consistent because we elect hawks one time (or two) then doves then hawks again etc. what does this do? It makes us half committed at best to wars we involve ourselves in. It’s been this way since WWII.
This is the problem. We need to decide as a nation once and for all if we are going to listen to Ron Paul and his isolationist ilk or not, and stick with the same policy for decades at least. There is no being “half-right” when it comes to foreign policy.
Sorry. But, is it safe to say most?
Re the Kurds, I certainly hope the US does all it reasonably can to help them survive the Islamic awaking taking place in the Middle East. I am not optimistic.
Neither am I.
If we’d only taken the hint after the ‘73 Embargo, we wouldn’t have needed to get involved in intra-Arab squabbles like that.
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