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Girls Outscore Boys on State Math Tests
DNAinfo ^ | August 18, 2014 | Amy Zimmer

Posted on 08/18/2014 2:48:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: UCANSEE2

Good point.


41 posted on 08/18/2014 3:39:44 PM PDT by mylife
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t believe this. I know many smart women who are good at math,(I am not one of them) but I know many more men who are good at math. Although, if this is true, the fault no doubt lies with the NY school systems who are more focused on teaching kids how to put condoms on fruit than teaching kids how to count fruit.


42 posted on 08/18/2014 3:40:03 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Never do anything against conscience, even if the State demands it." -Albert Einstein)
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To: UCANSEE2

Mod said the reason was “tacky”


43 posted on 08/18/2014 3:41:07 PM PDT by mylife
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To: dhs12345

I never had the chance to go to later school.
It is hurting me now.
Thank The USN for giving me 2 years of excellent school in exchange for 6 years of duty.


44 posted on 08/18/2014 3:43:00 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

“I got nothin against women and they are quite capable, but my experience is they do not want to do the hard everyday work.”

That’s why men get paid more than women in such fields. Something that I have no problem with. You should be rewarded based on ability and productivity.


45 posted on 08/18/2014 3:43:39 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Never do anything against conscience, even if the State demands it." -Albert Einstein)
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To: nickcarraway

The issue is the grade range - its clear that people who can’t understand why boys aren’t doing as well in grades 3-8, don’t have boys in grades 3-8. School is not on their radar at all and getting by with the least amount of effort is the goal so they can get outside to play. Boys start recognizing the importance of school later (I hope! - as the mother of 11 year old and 9 year old boys) which seems to be confirmed by the fact (mentioned in the article) that boys do better than girls on the math SAT which they take when they are juniors and seniors in high school.


46 posted on 08/18/2014 3:48:37 PM PDT by blackpack
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To: Politicalkiddo

I know some brilliant and capable women, It’s just not the norm in high disciple fields. (In my experience)


47 posted on 08/18/2014 3:49:51 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Yup. The Service! Most of the engineers and techs that I have worked with over the years spent a few years in the service. Very common.

It might have helped me because I was certainly lost right after HS.

BTW, you are never too old. :)


48 posted on 08/18/2014 3:50:19 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: BurningOak

Modern America has no use for brave, courageous, independent men; it wants a society of obedient drones. Women serve this purpose better than us Y chromosome relics.

Males are the ones who push the bleeding leading edge. Take males out of the question and the advance slows and stops.


49 posted on 08/18/2014 3:51:47 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: nickcarraway

Lisa Randall of Harvard comes to mind contemporaneously. But then, she’s a physicist. Yet one has to be pretty up on math as a string theorist.

Then there’s Sophie Germain of an earlier age.


50 posted on 08/18/2014 3:55:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: nickcarraway

This society has turned into an “Atta girl society”, and a “stop it!” society when it comes to girls and boys.


51 posted on 08/18/2014 3:55:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: BurningOak

Bright young boys are being turned off to school before they get past elementary. My 30 y/o sons, and many of their contemporaries, chose to opt out, go for home schooling, or just take the GED, go to the community college, and get on with it. The ‘typical’ public school has been short-changing boys for a long time now.

Years ago I sat on an advisory board for parents at a science/tech high school. Oh, the hand-wringing because the girl students didn’t take the highest level advanced math/science courses in large enough numbers to suit the quota-oriented! (those girls who did take the courses excelled, and most of those went on to medical school). The other girls have succeeded in law, public policy, business, etc. Not everyone has to be a doctor or engineer but too much emphasis placed on either boys or girls (at the cost of the other) pursuing a certain line of study just seems wrong. Hopefully, this pendulum will swing. Soon.


52 posted on 08/18/2014 3:56:33 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: nickcarraway

Will anyone link these stats to the recent events in Ferguson? Males - black and white, but the black underclass feels it first - are losing their traditional role as providers. Their solution to affirm themselves as people and as men? Gangs and crime, with sports and entertainment as an option for the supremely gifted. The solution? I don’t know.


53 posted on 08/18/2014 3:56:58 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: blackpack

Boys are much more interested in “Doing” at that age.
They want to build things and emulate their fathers.
When I finally got a math instructor that showed me how math applied to what I thought was important, it started to click.

Much later I realized that it was a general language and saved you from breaking your back doing things the wrong way around with experimentation.

For many years I was taught by women who gave me goofy problems like, if Mary gets on a train in Boston at 9AM headed to Chicago at 45 mph and Bob gets on a train from Chicago at 7AM headed to Boston, Where will Bob and Mary have lunch?


54 posted on 08/18/2014 3:58:23 PM PDT by mylife
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To: oldmomster

I don’t even have to look at the textbooks or be associated with education to know what’s going on.

You confirm it. More and more schools are doing away with recesses too, which is fundamental to young boy’s health.

You name it, they’ve done just about everything they can to destroy boys in the school setting.

Then you turn on the tube, and even at this time, you’ll still see them cheering on the girls with nothing in the same context for boys.

It’s massive sex discrimination by design.


55 posted on 08/18/2014 3:58:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: mylife

I know. I saw it. The Title of the thread was ‘tacky’.

Do you remember what it said ?


56 posted on 08/18/2014 4:00:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: All

For the record I was a Travel Coordinater as a side duty in the USN.
Balance the bloody budget too.


57 posted on 08/18/2014 4:00:36 PM PDT by mylife
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To: UCANSEE2

As I recall it was the same title, It just had some nasty reference by the other author from NYCMag about guys keeping severed ****’s in a jar.


58 posted on 08/18/2014 4:02:26 PM PDT by mylife
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To: dhs12345

Precalc isn’t calculus. Physics isn’t second year physics, and chemistry isn’t second year chemistry.


59 posted on 08/18/2014 4:02:37 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: nickcarraway

finally screwed up teaching math in a way that helps the girls win. there will be a lot less mathematicians in the future.


60 posted on 08/18/2014 4:06:48 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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