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To: kristinn

Well, that seems to create as many questions as it answers. Anyone know how many total shots were fired?


4 posted on 08/17/2014 8:26:13 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I don’t know. But I heard that there were two shots fired while he was running away. Those didn’t hit him.


7 posted on 08/17/2014 8:27:36 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: smokingfrog

Article says six shots, some of which exited and entered again. Four of the six shots hit Brown’s right arm.

Seems to me that Wilson was trying hard to wound but not kill Brown, aiming at his arm at first.


50 posted on 08/17/2014 9:14:55 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: smokingfrog

The police will need to check the officer’s weapon to see how many bullets were fired, and match them against any shell casings they found.

Shots in the right arm are in a line so it would support police reports that the officer shot at Brown when he was bull-charging the policeman (his shots pulled to the left). The two fatal shots were PROBABLY in the spots noted by Baden, not because he was surrendering (on his knees) but because he had lowered his head in the charge as well as beginning to collapse inward due to the pain of the first 4 wounds in his arm.

Gun-powder residue locations will be critical. If none are found on Brown, or only one (if he was shot in or near the car in a struggle with the officer), then this would support the police/officer’s version of what happened.

If residue is found on Brown’s clothing/arms/head, then there is a credibility problem with the police version.

Brown’s companion in crime and his version of what happened are not credible. Check it against the forensics.

Lots of someone “said” re what was happening. This is not admissible or even credible eyewitness material.

How do you say “lying MFs”?

This is not to say that the local police used common sense in handling the mobs or the looters. You don’t put snipers on the roof of trucks, aiming their rifles at people in the street (if no violence is taking place). Making a lot of noise and saying crude things don’t need this kind of stupid response which was shown all over the world.

Also, the biggest unanswered question of the day (as asked by moi, an old street protest-covering reporter) -

Why didn’t the police get help in spotting outside agitators and then do “grab, snatch and hustle” arrests? It is an old method of grabbing key agitators from within a mob and getting them out into custody in a very quick maneuver.

The locals would have helped point out who they knew came from “the outside”.

Then those arrested could be charged with various conspiracy crimes concerning crossing various political lines to commit riot, mayhem and criminal violence.

If you get the outside agitators in the first day or so, you can break the back of organized violence and looting.

Buckshoot and Rocksalt also help (you nail a couple dozen in the legs as they are actively looting). The message will then get out to the stupid masses. “Loot, and we shoot”.

Why didn’t the city of Ferguson or even state officials make Sharpton and Jackson and known racial agitators such as the head of the New Black Panthers, post a “peace bond” of, say, $250,000 cash (based on their previous records of causing riots and looting, esp. Sharpton, and the NBPP’s racist, threatening statements to mobs)?

Seems that the law enforcement people in Missouri dont’ know a thing about mob/riot control, something I used to talk about in classes I was taking in Police Science (aka Criminology). Hell, as a student I used to lecture veteran police/FBI/Secret Service and military personnel on the anatomy of a riot and riot control tactics.

You see, I read both Police Manuals as well as the manuals of the communists which they used in the Mayday Riots, 1971 (Rennie Davis and Arthur Waskow); Marighella’s “Urban Guerrila Warfare” manual; Cuba materials, Weathermen publications, Black Panther Party publications, and misc. terrorist materials.

Also talked to military veterans who performed riot control during the 1968 riots in DC and Baltimore.

Well, somebody had to do it since a lot of American police departments had no idea how to handle domestic riots/looting.

Seems that despite all the shit that FEMA/DHS/FBI, and other law enforcement agencies are putting out in anti-Tea Party manuals, it is totally useless, aimed at peaceful American citizens, and is so politically correct that black and hispanic gangs are literally never mentioned, and you probably couldn’t find the word “communist” anywhere associated with “rioters, looters, and saboteurs”.

Only the anarchist “Black Bloc” gets an ocassional mention as a threat, but they are never taken out when they do riot. Cops or their leaders afraid of being accused of “police brutality” and violating constitutional rights to riot and loot.

Damned. I thought we learned something over the past 50 years about how to handle riotious mobs and looting, but it looks like they learned nothing. And Eric Holder is making sure that it remains that way.


125 posted on 08/18/2014 5:26:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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