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On race, America has far to go. Ferguson won't be the last flash point
The Manchester Guardian ^ | August 16, 2014 | Farai Chideya

Posted on 08/17/2014 3:19:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The events in Missouri spring from America's deeply embedded segregation and black economic deprivation.

I spent my very early years in New York, living a very multiracial Sesame Street life, a big swinging bellbottom of a childhood. And then our family moved to Baltimore and the iron curtain of the "colour line" fell. I felt that I had moved from the 1970s through a time warp where black and white were the only two colours and never the twain shall socially meet.

I grew to understand what the 50s were actually like in Baltimore, when my mother, for example, was permitted to buy clothes from the major department store but not try them on. (Heaven forfend some black lady should be in the dressing room, right? You know they leave a residue of blackness on the clothes.)

America has never had one racial reality, but a series of them strung together from San Antonio to Pittsburgh to Appalachia. What we are seeing in Ferguson, Missouri, is the result of life in a specific type of heavily racialised zone. Yes, a city such as New York, where a black man was recently choked to death by police officers, has its own very clear forms of racialisation and it's a national issue. But the police killing, last week, of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen in Ferguson has sparked national protests because it represents a specific type of racialisation. This is of the majority black city, big or small, with a white economic and political power structure.

I grew up with mayor William Donald Schaefer, who presided over Baltimore from 1971-1987, an unusually long stretch....

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Farai Chideya is an author, broadcaster, and the Distinguished Writer in Residence at New York University's Journalism Institute.

1 posted on 08/17/2014 3:19:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Opinions are like you-know-what...everybody’s got one.


2 posted on 08/17/2014 3:20:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Really? She looks like she has an IQ of 72.


3 posted on 08/17/2014 3:21:55 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll

You’re a generous soul.


4 posted on 08/17/2014 3:22:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Farai sez kill de white man and everything will be OTAY.


5 posted on 08/17/2014 3:23:31 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nah, too easy ...


6 posted on 08/17/2014 3:26:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Distinguished by who’s standards?


7 posted on 08/17/2014 3:27:06 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No. "America" does not have far to go; lawless hoodrats/inner-city thugs stuck on the Democrat and Government "gimmedat" plantation have far to go.
I notice Col. West, Thomas Sowell, Justice Thomas (SCOTUS) have seemed to go "far" all on their own; but I guess they are not "black enough" for this rather well fed woman.
8 posted on 08/17/2014 3:27:37 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The events in Missouri spring from America’s deeply embedded segregation and black economic deprivation.”

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9 posted on 08/17/2014 3:29:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“On race, America has far to go”

To get to where? Where no other nation is?

Minorities think this place sucks so bad, then go somewhere where the people there will give even less f*cks that your ancestor you cant even name was a slave.


10 posted on 08/17/2014 3:30:20 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: BenLurkin
“The events in Missouri spring from America’s deeply embedded segregation and black economic deprivation.”

So the obvious answer is to burn down the places that employee the black people.

11 posted on 08/17/2014 3:31:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how blacks never seem to have any responsibility in ‘race relations’


12 posted on 08/17/2014 3:32:47 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is the shit about to hit the fan............ YET?...

It’s coming..


13 posted on 08/17/2014 3:32:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: VanDeKoik

They won’t leave, despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth. Deep down, most of them know they’ve got a good thing going versus their cousins in Africa, the Caribbean, South America and Arabia.


14 posted on 08/17/2014 3:33:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Farai Chideya is part of the precipitate ...

Because she sure as heck isn't part of the solution.

"Black America" needs to get the chip off its collective shoulder, quit living as a parasite class, get off its collective duff and EARN a living.

15 posted on 08/17/2014 3:35:08 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I grew to understand what the 50s were actually like in Baltimore, when my mother, for example, was permitted to buy clothes from the major department store but not try them on. "

It hasn't been the '50s for a long time. Get over the poor victim crap already.

16 posted on 08/17/2014 3:35:14 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think she’s on to something there. Like, in my neighborhood, I’m always counseling the white boy thugs. I tell them to stop wearing their pants down below their underwear. I tell them to stop stealing Swisher Sweets and for goodness sakes stop punching the cops. But they just don’t listen! Land sakes alive!


17 posted on 08/17/2014 3:35:37 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: hosepipe

18 posted on 08/17/2014 3:36:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But the police killing, last week, of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen in Ferguson has sparked national protests because it represents a specific type of racialisation."

Dear Author Farai Chideya, you are full of it. Unarmed black teen - you do not know the circumstances of the shooting. The witness that the media has run with, turns out to be Brown's accomplice in the strong arm robbery. He's a thug and a liar. A friend of the officer involved says that Big Mike, the gentle giant after one assault on the officer, was racing toward the officer to attack him again. Trayvon Martin first name was changed to "unarmed teenager", even though he was using his fists to beak a guys head into the cement.

But all the facts have not come out, your piece is BS and you're prejudiced. You've prejudged this case and made wild assumptions and implications of how this somehow affects the entire US of A.

In my opinion, this propaganda in the Brown case is about agitating the Black population in order to get them to come out and vote in November. That's my opinion and I think I can back it better than you can back up your drivel.

All of these police shootings of young Black men would stop immediately, if young Black men gave up their criminal activity. How about that for a solution? Otherwise what, give young Black men a free pass to commit crimes?

19 posted on 08/17/2014 3:37:05 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Altura Ct.

How do “victims” bear any responsibility?


20 posted on 08/17/2014 3:38:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America has gone far enough!

“Minorities” need to get with the program and stop seeing white people as their only paycheck option.

I don’t see much pride in Black Pride when the only thing blacks seem to do is hold their hand out for whites to put something in it.


21 posted on 08/17/2014 3:39:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are thugs and slackers in all American cultures and ethnic groups. Ferguson far exceeds it’s quota.


22 posted on 08/17/2014 3:39:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good point


23 posted on 08/17/2014 3:40:33 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would it surprise anyone that the condeming evidence is going to come out from that store security video that showed that the person who was shot that caused all the rioting was robbing that store?

This will become an open and shut case.


24 posted on 08/17/2014 3:41:04 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: CodeToad

They still want to be slaves....they just don’t want to do the work.

But they are slaves just the same.


25 posted on 08/17/2014 3:42:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Low information, low intelligence, low motivation individuals like Farai Chideya try to wrap themselves in them mantle of victimhood precisely because "victims" bear no responsibility.

BTW, what the heck is a "Farai Chideya"?

"Chideya" sounds like the name of an IJN destroyer or light cruiser ...

26 posted on 08/17/2014 3:42:34 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She's too young to know what things were like back in the day when black people had few educational and job opportunities, when black people had to use separate waiting rooms at train or bus stations, separate drinking fountains and often couldn't use public restrooms. Blacks were systematically barred from owning a home or renting in predominantly white neighborhoods. A black man could be lynched for just looking directly at a white woman. We had come quite far from the old days.

Then Obama and his accomplices came along. The man hailed as the great unifier of the races has split them apart. Of course, this division is intentional. Obama and those like him feel that everything wrong in their lives is the result of those evil rich white folks and they are deliberately seeking their revenge against white people for all grievances, real or imagined.

27 posted on 08/17/2014 3:42:59 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Modern segregation and the lack of jobs for blacks is far more a result of black behavior than anything else. The 30 percent of Ferguson residents that are white will soon be leaving, and what will be left are run down properties, closed businesses, and black depravity. I might also add that blacks who are worth their salt will be getting the hell out of there to.


28 posted on 08/17/2014 3:44:02 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk ("Good beer is proof that God loves us." Ben Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fat ignorant low IQ Blacks all seem to have an opinion on America and Whitey.....they want them both dead it seems too....


29 posted on 08/17/2014 3:46:13 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“As long as there is a profit and Democrat power motive behind race baiting, it will continue to go on.”

There... Fixed it!


30 posted on 08/17/2014 3:46:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Here is an Enterprise official doomsday prediction:

The day will come when things are so terrible in this country that Farai Chideya will wish for the good days when a white cop shot a black man - and people actually cared!

31 posted on 08/17/2014 3:46:56 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ferguson won’t be the last flash point


Does she think this scares us? I am not intimidated.


32 posted on 08/17/2014 3:47:42 PM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When folks like this say “we have so far to go on race”....they do not mean in a positive direction.


33 posted on 08/17/2014 3:48:54 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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34 posted on 08/17/2014 3:49:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

35 posted on 08/17/2014 3:50:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jabba the Nutt

All most ALL blacks killed by violent means are killed by other blacks..

NON blacks kill very few blacks..


36 posted on 08/17/2014 3:50:49 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

If America could some how get rid of the Black Underclass, things in this country would be 1000% improved. The BU is a galaxy-sized drain on the country in terms of tax-payer money paid out towards welfare, crime prevention, and employing blacks in positions where they are incompetent. Few blacks, like this author, understand this.


37 posted on 08/17/2014 3:51:06 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But the police killing, last week, of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen a violent criminal who assaulted a police officer after committing a robbery in Ferguson" Fixed it.
38 posted on 08/17/2014 3:52:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: driftless2

Should’ve picked our own damn cotton.


39 posted on 08/17/2014 3:52:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

“Missouri spring”?

Is this idiot serious???


40 posted on 08/17/2014 3:53:55 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: BenLurkin

The trouble in Ferguson has fired up the base for the Dems.
Expect more incidents between now and the elections.


41 posted on 08/17/2014 3:54:03 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They don’t want to go to Africa,the locals there have to work to survive.No government tit to suckle there.


42 posted on 08/17/2014 3:56:09 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: boycott

The only flash points will be from armed citizens firearms if these crooks venture outside of the ghetto thinking that they will be able to loot and riot outside of the hood.


43 posted on 08/17/2014 3:56:21 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see white racism present in this case, but I see a great deal of lawlessness.

People forget the Ferguson Police Department working the protests the five days before the State Police took over did not kill or injure any protester. The restraint displayed is remarkable.


44 posted on 08/17/2014 3:56:27 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

Yep, that’s what has happened everywhere. Trashed out neighborhoods, abandoned homes and buildings, graffiti, trashed out schools, crime, drugs, middle class and business flight. They’ve destroyed historic neighborhoods, buildings, business districts, schools.

Yet they still have all the excuses. Always somebody else’s fault, never theirs Even after all the disproportionate crime, abuse, laziness.


45 posted on 08/17/2014 3:58:21 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Get rid of "birthright citizenship" Out of room . . . no mas)
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To: Biggirl
Would it surprise anyone that the condemning evidence is going to come out ... This will become an open and shut case.

This will work to the advantage of those that are now fanning the race flames, and want to see BIG flash points for November and 2016. Actually, works well especially for 2016.

There will be a trial, it will now get national coverage. A sequestered jury, immersed in the evidence, finds the cop innocent. Further inflaming race riots, say around summer of 2015. Just in time for the fall 2016 campaign.

46 posted on 08/17/2014 4:00:30 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

80% of AA women are obese.

Because white privilege.


47 posted on 08/17/2014 4:00:58 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

We’re “privileged” to send them food stamps, WIC, government cheese, meals-on-wheels and food bank groceries?


48 posted on 08/17/2014 4:02:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: hosepipe

“Is the shit about to hit the fan............ YET?...

It’s coming..”

And if it is the Free Sh$t Army that takes it national they are going to seriously outgunned.


49 posted on 08/17/2014 4:03:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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50 posted on 08/17/2014 4:03:19 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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