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To: Beagle8U

And you saw this up close? You saw him without his shirt on? Because, shirts never move. Especially size 4X on a big guy like this. Nope, I want to read an autopsy report with firearm forensics—where the did the bullets go, and where did they enter, and from what angle.

And where did I suggest the cop wasn’t hurt. I am willing to bet he got the crap kicked out of him. I think that’s why the kid got shot. It makes sense to me.

I reiterate that I don’t care about eyewitnesses. They all have a dog in the fight. Show me some evidence. A fuzzy picture from a phone taken a hundred yards away is not good reliable evidence. You know that.

What I am suggesting is that choosing sides on this one is not easy. It would be nice to get some facts other than:

The kid appears to be a thug, robbing a store.
The cop gets the kid into the car.
The kid beats the crap out of the cop in the car.
The kid moves away from the car.
The cop shoots the kid.

I know there doesn’t seem to be a lot of white space between those lines, but there is a whole lot of story missing here. The forensics will tell us the story.

They will tell us:

Was a shot fired in the car
How bad was the cop hurt
How did the kid get out of the car
Which was was the kid facing when he was shot
How many times was he shot
What was the angle of the bullets entering and exiting the body (if they exited)
What damage in the body was caused.

These things will tell us whether the kid was facing or away. They will tell us if the kid was kneeling or standing. They will tell us if his hands were up or down.

I don’t need a video, and I dont need an eyewitness to tell me these things.

Its physics and chemistry.

I am willing to wait until we get real answers. Not demands or “rocket surgery” whatever that is.

I am willing to wait for indisputable facts.

Why aren’t you?


335 posted on 08/15/2014 12:19:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

On top of that, I want blood work on the cop. Are there anti anxiety meds? Adderal? Steriods?

My theory is the kid beat the crap out of the cop, tried to take the cops gun and it discharged. I think the kid freaked out and ran. I think the cop pulled himself out of the car, yelled at the kid, “Stop or I will shoot” while he pulled the trigger as a result of the rush of adrenaline that was pumping through his system.

But that is speculation on my part, connecting dots of a story that I have no further evidence on. It is just as valid a speculation as anyone else on these threads. And by valid, I mean bullshit.


336 posted on 08/15/2014 12:25:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt
...”I don’t care about eyewitnesses. They all have a dog in the fight. Show me some evidence”.....

It's coming....but from what's there so far it does seem to point that the kid was not angelic as his family and the black community is painting him. The more they attempt to do this, rather than let the evidence come out..the more guilty they look that they're covering for who they knew him to be otherwise. I also think that the standards in a black community are far different then those outside a black community. ....Pot smoking and brawls may very well be 'natural daily life' for many and accepted as part of that particular culture....many don't seem to have much emotional control and drama is daily life for them.

I have it in a section 8 house they plopped in our neighborhood. They are clueless on basic consideration for your neighbors....domestic fights end up in the street at all hours...teenagers coming and going all hours of day and night...police cars consistently being called there.

I honestly think that the police are an 'expected' role in their day to day drama...wouldn't be complete for them without police showing up so they can tell their stories of how bad the other guys are they're fighting with.

I am certainly getting an up front education on how these people live...and it isn't pretty by any means.

337 posted on 08/15/2014 12:36:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: Vermont Lt

“A fuzzy picture from a phone taken a hundred yards away is not good reliable evidence. You know that.”

It looks to be a forensics photo taken at the scene after the cops roped it off. It is a pretty close photo.


339 posted on 08/15/2014 12:53:43 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Vermont Lt
I am willing to wait for indisputable facts.

I predict you will never get them, you will however, get a semi believable narrative that will be reported as fact that you can believe in, if it fits your predetermined belief.

345 posted on 08/15/2014 1:11:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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