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How Puerto Rican migrants could swing the largest swing state
fusion net ^ | 8/11/14 | Daniel RIvero

Posted on 08/11/2014 7:33:22 PM PDT by Baynative

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To: xzins

“Beyond this, I served 2.5 decades in the US military and regularly served with Puerto Ricans. They were dedicated, loyal soldiers. As a chaplain I knew many Christian Puerto Rican families. They were so family oriented. I saw that as a huge strength.”

Chaplain, the ‘brotherhood of man’ is part of your job description. However, the history of man is the history of the development(and use) of the weapon. Arguably, Man seems not to have much of an angelic nature, and as most Men are sufficiently “shortsighted, selfish, and greedy”, I fear the electoral results of the past will be visited upon us to an increasing degree as the assorted, sordid, Turd World parasites best described as “Latrinos” continue to use government to steal from the producers.

Have you considered that the Hebrew “Don’t Steal” should have included “nor get government to steal for you”?

If so, how can you claim the parasitic “Latrino” migration is anything other than a threat to the Republic?


21 posted on 08/11/2014 8:48:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: xzins; PghBaldy
"In 1917 the US Congress granted US citizenship to Puerto Ricans, so that makes me think there’s free travel between PR and the mainland."

If they can't vote in our national elections from Puerto Rico, why can they come here and vote?

22 posted on 08/11/2014 8:54:42 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative

Because they are American citizens like you and me. Like someone can move from Utah to Texas and immediately vote in Texas, someone from Puerto Rico can move from the island to Ohio and immediately register to vote. Why, they have been American citizens since 1917, about 97 years now.


23 posted on 08/11/2014 9:13:50 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Baynative

Because we vote as states for electors rather than directly for a president. Puerto Rico is not a state, so they do not elect electors. If a US citizen transfers residence to a state, like Florida, then Florida DOES elect electors.


24 posted on 08/11/2014 9:44:07 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GladesGuru
Puerto Ricans are already US citizens. It's that simple.

FWIW, I believe Puerto Rico has a better claim on being a US state than Hawaii ever did. (Would have kept us from having Obama as a president if Hawaii weren't a state.)

Florida’s heritage is Hispanic. It's history is Hispanic. One can no more divorce Hispanic from the discussion of Florida than we can divorce French from a discussion of Louisiana.

25 posted on 08/11/2014 9:53:33 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Baynative

From Wiki: Currently, the United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of Puerto Rico was 3,667,084 on July 1, 2012, a -1.6% decrease since the 2010 United States Census. From 2000 to 2010, the population decreased, the first such decrease in census history for Puerto Rico. It went from the 3,808,610 residents registered in the 2000 Census to 3,725,789 in the 2010 Census.

A declining and aging population presents additional problems for the society. The Census Bureau has noted that “76,218 people residing in the U.S. last year lived in Puerto Rico one year earlier.”

10 year drop from 2000 to 2010 was 2.2%. In just two years another 1.6% of the population has left PR, averaged over ten years that would be roughly a 8% drop in population. That is significant.

I would suspect they are coming to the mainland looking for opportunity as they can get welfare by staying in PR. There would be no point in moving for that. I would also think those coming to the states are more upwardly mobile (which presents yet other challenges for the remaining pop.)

For those complaining that PRs moving to the states can vote in presidential elections it goes both ways. If you move to PR you cannot vote in presidential elections. (Unless you ilegally maintain a US address for voting purposes).


26 posted on 08/11/2014 9:59:34 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: The_Media_never_lie; All

In Puerto Rico they are NOT taxpayers and they can’t vote in national election. In Washington, DC they ARE taxpayers and they can’t vote for voting representatives in the House and the Senate, and are told they cannot spend their own city raised tax money for city programs without Congressional permission. You are right, TAXPAYERS should be allowed to vote, but in DC they cannot.


27 posted on 08/11/2014 10:05:27 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Ping


28 posted on 08/11/2014 11:41:10 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: Theodore R.
Re: “Aren’t the FL Cubans also increasingly Democrat despite Cruz and Rubio?”

Yes.

Most people don't realize that the “Conservative” Cubans came in the first immigrant wave around 1960.

Essentially, the first wave was the Cuban upper middle class, those with skilled professions and business owners.

And, much of the first wave could trace their ancestry back to the European Spanish.

The following waves of Cuban immigrants were, in large part, mixed race, low skill, and included many convicts released by Castro.

Large numbers of those follow on groups moved to the New York City area, and they vote overwhelmingly Democrat, including those who settled in Florida.

29 posted on 08/11/2014 11:52:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Baynative

great.


30 posted on 08/12/2014 4:17:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: gleeaikin

Yes, TAXPAYERS only, and not just those that file returns to get benefits! This just has to end, one way or another.


31 posted on 08/12/2014 4:25:38 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: thestob
...republicans aren’t ever going to win a presidential election starting off down FL, NY, CA, IL

A Republican will only enter the White House as a tourist, guest or cabinet member. Future presidential elections will be decided in the democrat primary. It sucks, but that's the reality we face.

32 posted on 08/12/2014 5:08:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


33 posted on 08/12/2014 5:58:11 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: xzins; gusty

Now I get it - thanks.


34 posted on 08/12/2014 9:32:30 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Clemenza

Independent as in undecided between the Democrat Party and the Socialist Worker Party and its equivalents.


35 posted on 08/12/2014 10:32:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Baynative
I was just told in a private message that Puerto Ricans already vote in our elections. I know they have a rep in congress that they elect, but I didn’t think they voted in our national elections.

Puerto Rico, being a territory not a state, has no voting representation in Congress and doesn't vote for President. But Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, and can therefore legally move from Puerto Rico to the mainland where they can vote like every other U.S. citizen.

36 posted on 08/12/2014 12:07:25 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
"Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, and can therefore legally move from Puerto Rico to the mainland where they can vote like every other U.S. citizen."

What a perfect opportunity for a democrat voter drive.

37 posted on 08/12/2014 1:22:49 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
What a perfect opportunity for a democrat voter drive.

Puerto Ricans were granted U.S. citizenship in 1917, so it's not like this is anything new. And the same was true of residents of Alaska and Hawaii before they became states.

38 posted on 08/12/2014 1:38:18 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Not a new condition, but an updated strategy.


39 posted on 08/12/2014 1:40:49 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Steven Scharf

Go to any welfare office in Orange or Osceola counties, and you will see that the vast majority of Hispanics are from PR. Bennies in FL are much more generous than in PR, and the cost of living is lower as well.


40 posted on 08/12/2014 6:21:13 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lurking)
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