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What Happens When Libertarian Fantasies Become Reality?
Townhall.com ^ | August 10, 2014 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 08/10/2014 8:07:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: blueunicorn6

My personal definition of libertarians (based on observation of the years) is that they are the ones who like to act smarter than everyone else, without the danger having to actually do anything.


21 posted on 08/10/2014 9:51:26 AM PDT by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Fair enough. I think, though, that there are two major brands of people who call themselves libertarians:

1. Traditional. Seeks to minimize government and infringement on civil liberties.

2. Cultural (not really libertarians but that’s how they self-label). In favor of abortion, gay marriage, and drug legalization. Don’t have any particular thoughts about reducing other government programs.


22 posted on 08/10/2014 9:56:50 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Kaslin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfpO-WBz_mw


23 posted on 08/10/2014 10:07:16 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Kaslin
You want to know the best part of private roads? If they’re truly private, that means local governments wouldn’t be able to use red-light cameras and ticket traps as scams to generate revenue!

Don't be too sure. Can't these be rented out as franchises to the local towns and police?

24 posted on 08/10/2014 10:10:00 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Carry_Okie

That is an interesting read. You’ve done a lot of work!


25 posted on 08/10/2014 10:53:35 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Kaslin

Libertarian Dream: 12 year old drug addicted prostitutes for everyone


26 posted on 08/10/2014 11:27:30 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Interesting thoughts. Most self proclaimed conservatives do not see that. I do however think that fiscal conservatives should be in that list as well as non or minimal interventionists.

You might also mention the burning hatred that some of these groups have for each other.


27 posted on 08/10/2014 11:36:14 AM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: GeronL

The Libertarian Dread: Pot in every chicken.


28 posted on 08/10/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

s/b Dream....(my kingdom for an edit feature)


29 posted on 08/10/2014 11:39:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ray76
That is an interesting read. You’ve done a lot of work!

If you liked that, there is a lot more. What you read was but one of 26 chapters. That was a very small part of an unprecedented project meant (in part) to be a demonstration of what private property can do to restore functional and pure native plant habitat. If you click any "WP" logo on any page of that picture book, it will take you to the Table of Content.

30 posted on 08/10/2014 11:45:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: dfwgator

lol

Pot-farm raised chickens in the freezer section


31 posted on 08/10/2014 12:03:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Stepan12
No way. Libertarians do not want your children selling their bodies for drugs! They want LEGAL DRUGS. If your children want to sell their bodies for drugs they'll have to do it at Walgreens because the pimps and pushers will be out of business.

I consider myself a Libertarian conservative. I have the utmost respect for the chosen people of the ONE!

Why the lie filled hate fest against people that want to follow the constitution as closely as possible?

32 posted on 08/10/2014 12:10:45 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Kaslin
I [Heart] Dan Mitchell!


33 posted on 08/10/2014 1:32:23 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Obama is O'Bryan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUoPNpa9Rrw)
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To: rawcatslyentist

The problem I have with many who wish to legalize all drugs us that they view that choice as the magic bullet that brings nirvana. In the real world, legalizing crack, heroin, and cocaine will produce many more addicts who will not be able to maintain a good paying job and will have to turn toward theft and prostitution in order to get the monkey off their backs.

Now in the balance legalization may be the lesser of two evils. But it’s dishonest to portray legalization as a cure all.


34 posted on 08/10/2014 1:34:21 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

So will libertarians force employers to hire users, or force taxpayers to pay for their treatments?


35 posted on 08/10/2014 1:35:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The latter is my big concern. Can you not envision Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton bewailing the “disparate impact” that legalized drugs have on “people of color?” Soon after followed by the “Drug Free Neighborhood Assistance Act” of 2120? Huge entitlements to treat and support these unfortunate souls?


36 posted on 08/10/2014 1:41:06 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Kaslin

Libertarianism?

COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


37 posted on 08/10/2014 1:42:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Now in the balance legalization may be the lesser of two evils. But it’s dishonest to portray legalization as a cure all.

I've never seen it portrayed that way.

38 posted on 08/10/2014 3:09:29 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Post 32 implies that there will no longer be people prostituting themselves, and by extension committing crimes, to pay for drugs after legalization. I have also heard many arguments that all the drug gangs will go away if drugs are legalized. It is perfectly obvious that none of these things are true. All sorts of drugs in higher doses, stronger formulations, or at lower prices, or for sale to minors that will not be allowed by law, will be the market segment of the gangs. I have heard it’s already happening in Washington, where is cheaper to buy pot from your regular dealer thsn from legal outlets.


39 posted on 08/10/2014 4:15:20 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Now in the balance legalization may be the lesser of two evils. But it’s dishonest to portray legalization as a cure all.

I've never seen it portrayed that way.

Post 32 implies that there will no longer be people prostituting themselves, and by extension committing crimes, to pay for drugs after legalization. I have also heard many arguments that all the drug gangs will go away if drugs are legalized.

Well short of a "cure all" IMO.

It is perfectly obvious that none of these things are true. All sorts of drugs in higher doses, stronger formulations, or at lower prices, or for sale to minors that will not be allowed by law, will be the market segment of the gangs.

It is far from obvious that there is enough demand in those areas to generate a supply. Illegal alcohol is a miniscule phenomenon.

40 posted on 08/10/2014 4:30:36 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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