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Why Won't Obama Just Leave Ukraine Alone
Townhall ^ | August 5, 2014 | Former Congressman Ron Paul

Posted on 08/05/2014 2:33:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama announced last week that he was imposing yet another round of sanctions on Russia, this time targeting financial, arms, and energy sectors. The European Union, as it has done each time, quickly followed suit.

These sanctions will not produce the results Washington demands, but they will hurt the economies of the US and EU, as well as Russia.

These sanctions are, according to the Obama administration, punishment for what it claims is Russia's role in the crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, and for what the president claims is Russia's continued arming of separatists in eastern Ukraine. Neither of these reasons makes much sense because neither case has been proven.

The administration began blaming Russia for the downing of the plane just hours after the crash, before an investigation had even begun. The administration claimed it had evidence of Russia's involvement but refused to show it. Later, the Obama administration arranged a briefing by "senior intelligence officials" who told the media that "we don't know a name, we don't know a rank and we're not even 100 percent sure of a nationality," of who brought down the aircraft.

So Obama then claimed Russian culpability because Russia's "support" for the separatists in east Ukraine "created the conditions" for the shoot-down of the aircraft. That is a dangerous measure of culpability considering US support for separatist groups in Syria and elsewhere.

Similarly, the US government claimed that Russia is providing weapons, including heavy weapons, to the rebels in Ukraine and shooting across the border into Ukrainian territory. It may be true, but again the US refuses to provide any evidence and the Russian government denies the charge. It's like Iraq's WMDs all over again.

Obama has argued that the Ukrainians should solve this problem themselves and therefore Russia should butt out.

I agree with the president on this. Outside countries should leave Ukraine to resolve the conflict itself. However, even as the US demands that the Russians de-escalate, the United States is busy escalating!

In June, Washington sent a team of military advisors to help Ukraine fight the separatists in the eastern part of the country. Such teams of "advisors" often include special forces and are usually a slippery slope to direct US military involvement.

On Friday, President Obama requested Congressional approval to send US troops into Ukraine to train and equip its national guard. This even though in March, the president promised no US boots on the ground in Ukraine. The deployment will be funded with $19 million from a fund designated to fight global terrorism, signaling that the US considers the secessionists in Ukraine to be "terrorists."

Are US drone strikes against these "terrorists" and the "associated forces" who support them that far off?

The US has already provided the Ukrainian military with $23 million for defense security, $5 million in body armor, $8 million to help secure Ukraine's borders, several hundred thousand ready-to-eat meals as well as an array of communications equipment. Congress is urging the president to send lethal military aid and the administration is reportedly considering sending real-time intelligence to help target rebel positions.

But let's not forget that this whole crisis started with the US-sponsored coup against Ukraine's elected president back in February. The US escalates while it demands that Russia de-escalate. How about all sides de-escalate?

Even when the goals are clear, sanctions have a lousy track record. Sanctions are acts of war. These sanctions will most definitely have a negative effect on the US economy as well as the Russian economy. Why is "winning" Ukraine so important to Washington? Why are they risking a major war with Russia to deny people in Ukraine the right to self-determination? Let's just leave Ukraine alone!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: kookery; lping; obama; resident0bama; ronpaul; sanctions; ukraine
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1 posted on 08/05/2014 2:33:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Simple answer: Putin is outsmarting the rookie and inexperienced Acorn community organizer!!!


2 posted on 08/05/2014 2:51:34 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I bet Rand wishes his dad would stay in the attic talking to himself.
3 posted on 08/05/2014 3:00:18 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Why? I have a better chance of being the nominee. Let’s not kid ourselves, it’s going to be Bush vs. Clinton unless one or both of them have health issues or pass away.


4 posted on 08/05/2014 3:04:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard Savage surmise that since Putin is so anti-gay that is what mostly fuels Bammy’s hate of Putin and not that Pute is so much an aggressor. Otherwise why would Bam give a non muzzie rip about Russia vs. Ukraine?


5 posted on 08/05/2014 3:36:43 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why can't Obama just leave us all alone! Go for early retirement Mr. President, please! The nation and the world prefers to see you on the golf course, full time. Stay away, improve your game and let us begin rebuilding the USA and the West all over again after the lethal damage you inflicted upon us all.
6 posted on 08/05/2014 3:37:45 AM PDT by Netz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t feel like analyzing another one of Ron’s screeds. In most cases I would at least skim an article with a title critical of Obama but when I see Paul’s name I know there will be some isolationist BS in it before it’s over.

Ron Paul is like a conservative hammer with a cracked handle- He appears to be okay until you pick him up and try to do some work. Then you realize he’s useless.


7 posted on 08/05/2014 3:46:05 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: danamco
Simple answer: Putin is outsmarting the rookie and inexperienced Acorn community organizer!!!

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Putin isn't outsmarting anybody. Get over your man crush. Just this year he has lost his puppet in Ukraine, killed over 1,000 people and now the economy of his kleptocratic petrostate is crumbling.

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8 posted on 08/05/2014 3:51:55 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the same Ron Paul who wants us to withdraw our support for Israel and open all our borders to interlopers, right???

Nuff Said — He’s an idiot and so is anyone who listens top him.


9 posted on 08/05/2014 3:53:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The only borders you neocon tools care about are in Eastern Europe.


10 posted on 08/05/2014 4:24:26 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Uncle Chip
Better yet, why won't odumbo just leave the American people alone? He needs to play golf more to keep himself busy and away from “the office”, the only damage he can do on the golf course is some torn up grass in various places.
11 posted on 08/05/2014 4:25:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: mac_truck
“neocon tools”

And Monsanto Nazis...

12 posted on 08/05/2014 4:33:45 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait, I thought Obama wasn’t tough ENOUGH on Russia.


13 posted on 08/05/2014 4:36:07 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: lodi90

This whole thing went south over the gay issue. Russian relations weren’t that bad until Obama started pushing gay rights over there. That was the beginning of all this and the seed of it all. Then Obama started supporting ISIS in Syria and Putin shut him down.

Im rootin’ for Putin on this one, till Americas revolutionary socialist gay president is removed.


14 posted on 08/05/2014 4:54:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: mac_truck

Late night over there in the Kremlin???


15 posted on 08/05/2014 5:01:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is EXTREMELY THIN skinned and never forget a slight. Look at his rush to war against Libya and Syria, yes it was a rush, not like Bush’s one year diplomatic efforts via UN to get Saddam to comply


16 posted on 08/05/2014 5:34:15 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Uncle Chip

Given that they’re using phrases like “neocon tools”, I think it’s been a late night for mac_truck over there on DU.


17 posted on 08/05/2014 5:50:56 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: DesertRhino

Im rootin’ for Putin on this one, till Americas revolutionary socialist gay president is removed.


Well get ready to cheer a lot. Putin killed 20,000 Russian civilians in Chechnya. He’s just getting started in Ukraine. As bad as the kenyan is, he hasn’t killed 20,000+ of us. Yet.


18 posted on 08/05/2014 6:02:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
King Obamidas Won't Stop Screwing With The Ukraine Until It Messed Up Beyond Repair
Like Everything Else He Touches


19 posted on 08/05/2014 6:35:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government --- Thomas Paine)
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To: Iron Munro

Everything Obama touches turns to s—t.


20 posted on 08/05/2014 6:36:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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