1939: Germany Says Has Photos of Poland Attacking Gleiwitz Radio Station
RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST
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...and then the Ukrainians hot footed out of Ukrain into Russia?
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, its distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km, said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russias military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane, he stated."
The Russkie shamelessly claims the SU-25 can reach 10KM. It does not. That's why there is a Wikipedia war going on right now with the Russkies trying to upgrade the SU-25, at least online, for a gullible public:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183152/posts
One can tell that they aren't trying to fool any governments here. They are going after the public, since they know the public isn't likely to know things like what an SU-25 can or can't do, or what the maximum range of a Buk is.
Zerohedge also is reporting on the Russkies "debunking" the photographs of the Buks returning to Russia. Which is also BS:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183175/posts
Fact of the matter is, these stupid Russkies already admitted to shooting it down and to having the weapons necessary to do it, even while these losers shamelessly put forward all kinds of conspiracy theories to cover it up.
First to know a plane was down was Strelkov, who reported on twitter that they had shut down a Ukrainian AN26. It was immediately followed by Russian TV Life News who also reported shooting a Ukrainian plane. Both instances are documented.
I can make them, too. How about all the nations who lost citizens in the crash get all their intel together, not on an IRS hard drive, keep the originals and have a forum. One nation who did not lose a citizen and can be trusted as arbitrator. Good luck with that.
The Russian propaganda is at least plausible.
Hey, Russia got the evidence from Dan Rather who picked it up at Kinko’s. What more do you need?!?
“Ukraine has missiles too.”
Those pesky facts again. Dayum!
Amazing what computers can do these days.
this and the missing MH370 conspiracy theory together, are thought provoking at least.
Obama/Kerry aren't exactly known for being honest... about anything.
Looks like we’re finally getting to the bottom of this.
I figured the “blame Putin” push was just to get those Central American kids out of the news...and it worked GREAT.
Remember back at the beginning of Obama's first administration, the "beer summit" because Obama assumed his black friend was correct and the Cambridge MA policemen were in error? Remember Obama's response to Treyvon's death before he had any facts? Didn't Obama ignore warnings about the Tsarnov maniacs? Remember labeling Snowden as a traitor?
My point is that Obama has a sorry history of drawing conclusions based on who he likes and who he doesn't like. And Obama does not like Putin. And Obama jumped to conclusions in this situation based on some strangely perfect "evidence" from Kiev.
The whole MH17 story is as watertight as a screen door on a submarine. Evidence is going to pour in.
Oh Yeh sure —
And this from the same looting prefabricators who played cat and mouse with the bodies of the victims as they rifled though the evidence disturbing the crime scene for the last 4 days.
The Russians are playing it like your typical criminal defense attorney. It woulda, coulda, shoulda happened, so therefore it did, thus creating doubt. Beware the big lie, we are not alone when it comes to gullible people.
Interesting. Finally someone is releasing actual sat images and radar derived info. Not youtube videos or twitter images. And the Russians do not seem to draw any conclusions here. They just draw questions and point out possibilities. Kinda hard to see a Ukraine jet shooting the flight down. Or a Ukraine missile shooting it down. That points to a false flag and crazy tinfoil territory. We do have confirmation however that a military jet was in the vicinity of the commercial flight. Will the Ukraine release their radar data on the flight ? Why hold it back ?
A couple of questions:
My understanding is that the Ukranians have large jet transport aircraft. My understanding is that the pro-Russian separatists do NOT have large jet transport aircraft.
Why wouldn’t the pro-Russian separatists shoot at a jet they knew was not their own? Why would the Ukranians shoot at it?