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NSA investigation: Germany arrests 'suspected US spy'
BBC News ^ | July 4, 2014

Posted on 07/04/2014 7:36:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

An employee of Germany's intelligence agency has been arrested on suspicion of spying for the US, reports say.

The man is said to have been trying to gather details about a German parliamentary committee that is investigating claims of US espionage.

German media say the man arrested this week is a 31-year-old employee of the federal intelligence agency, known as the BND.

The German federal prosecutor's office confirmed the man's arrest, but gave no other details.

A spokesman for Ms Merkel said she had been informed of the arrest, as had the members of the nine-strong parliamentary committee investigating the activities of foreign intelligence agencies in Germany.

"The matter is serious, it is clear," spokesman Steffen Seibert told the Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper,

Der Spiegel news magazine said the man was believed to have passed secret documents to a US contact in exchange for money.

However, one unnamed politician told Reuters news agency the suspect had offered his services to the US voluntarily.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; bnd; europeanunion; eussr; germany; merkel; nsa; obama; obamasfault; steffenseibert; willybrandt; yeswescan

1 posted on 07/04/2014 7:36:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, I’m certainly not gonna sit here and believe the NSA’s plaints about this. Entirely believable in my book.


2 posted on 07/04/2014 7:38:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer; P-Marlowe; wmfights

Look what Obama has done with our allies and how he has covertly supported our enemies.

Allies check up on each other. Germany is not stupid. They probably had agents checking us, and we had agents checking them.

But, to arrest one of them says something important. It says that Obama has been busy burning bridges.


3 posted on 07/04/2014 7:43:51 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
It certainly does mark an attitudinal change.

Obama has been a total disaster. It makes me indescribably furious that the news media still carries his water.

4 posted on 07/04/2014 7:49:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: xzins

It’s his narcissism. He truly thinks he is Allah’s gift to the planet. Whatever he endorses and deems necessary is okay.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 7:51:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All about hating a Schwarzmann.


6 posted on 07/04/2014 7:55:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: skeeter
It makes me indescribably furious that the news media still carries his water.

The buckets are beginning to show signs of rusting through. You can't pretend the worst president in the history of the (former) Republic is the best forever. Eventually the weight of the water causes the bottom to fall out from the rusty buckets.

We are probably only another dozen scandals or so before that happens.

7 posted on 07/04/2014 8:05:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: xzins

Yes, Germany is sending a message.


8 posted on 07/04/2014 8:13:48 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: skeeter

>It makes me indescribably furious that the news media still carries his water.<

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What can you expect? They’re cut of the same leftist cloth.


9 posted on 07/04/2014 9:50:15 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
I know. I keep expecting evidence of some shred of integrity from leftists.

The folks with the same ends-justifies-the-means mindset that killed millions in the 20th century.

10 posted on 07/04/2014 10:04:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


Obama in Berlin 2008. Physically eluding to how he would ultimately turn out.
11 posted on 07/04/2014 12:17:08 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Germany is particularly sensitive to reports of espionage on its territory because many of its citizens from the formerly communist east of the country were spied upon by the Stasi secret police."

And Putin was a member of that organization.


12 posted on 07/04/2014 1:11:13 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop; xzins

The American problem might be that the common German people see Putin much more as a friend than his US-colleagues. You guys are not the good ones anymore on our side of the big pond. There is a basic turnaround in the public opinion.

The problem goes deeper. We are not only speaking about Germany. In almost all European countries this mood is the same. Even the Poles, the once staunchest American advocates seem to have understood that the Americans are not necessarily our friends.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3170811/posts

Obama is only the tip of the iceberg. This started a long time ago. The transatlantic friendship with all its economic and political benefits is a exclusive project of elites in the meantime. That was quite different in the past (WWII, Marshallplan, Kennedy as a “Berliner”, Berin airlift, Reagan at the Berlin Gate, NATO Double-Track Decision etc.). During the last decade America lost its aura of being a good hegemon in the European society completely. Therefore many important things could be in danger soon. Something very dangerous happened.

There are difficult times to come. Therefore even such strong nations like the US need its friends. Think about it.

Regards

Andreas

(Sorry for my bad English)


13 posted on 07/04/2014 10:49:04 PM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: VanDeKoik

The attendees were present for a rock concert if I’m not mistaken.


14 posted on 07/04/2014 10:51:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: European Guest

>> During the last decade America lost its aura

You’re implying that Bush’s actions against Iraq were the catalyst for the decline. Those early years that followed 9-11 demonstrated Europe’s toothless concern for Islam’s war against the US. If the US lost Europe’s love, the love was lost prior to George W Bush and 9-11.

>> Even the Poles, the once staunchest American advocates

Regarding Poland, it’s issue is with the Obama Admin’s feckless policies.


15 posted on 07/04/2014 11:07:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Nope. Of course we knew that the US policy in Iraq was wrong. Democratic nations are not suitable for pre-emptive strikes. A nation that wants to dominate another needs stamina. To transfer i.e. Germany into a satellite country after WWII it took decades and Bazillions of Dollars. Since Iraqs culture is in difference to Germanys something that is antithetic to the western christian judeo values of the US it was quite clear from the beginning, that a invasion would not be tolerated by the Iraqi population. The outcome was a fierce fight with 5000 death Americans and maybe 100.000 to 200.000 death Iraqis. A ethic desaster.

This is something, a democratic nation can not stand, since there was apart from strategic and economic needs no real reason for this invasion (we do not have to discuss the fakes of general Powell). It is not popular to give away the sons for a forsaken contry in the nowhere. Therefore your own people deselected the policy of an offensive preemptive behaviour in the election that took Obama into power.

This is something that should have been realized in advance. Therefore this war was completely wrong. The outcome is a desaster. Now we have to hope that the Iranians will take over there. Saddam would have been a much better solution for all of us. Thank you America.

9/11 is a different thing.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 12:50:51 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: Gene Eric

You said: “...Regarding Poland, it’s issue is with the Obama Admin’s feckless policies....”

The Poles supported you in Iraq and expected a “spechial relationship” (like the US-UK connection) in return. They were badly disappointed. Bush did nothing, Obama does nothing. In the meantime Germany and France invested Billions into the Polish economy. Therefore the Polish people turned to the EU in a notable manner.

Furthermore the Poles realized that they have power within Europe and their voice is heard (in sharp difference to the trans-atlantic relationship).

I would like to see those things turned. The Trans-Atlantic relationship is something our fathers bleeded for. It is very precious. The trans-atlantic brigde should be kept. But for a relationship you need a partner that is worth the effort. We do not want to be controlled by your Stasi and we do not want to be misused because of mean motivation. If you guys continue on this path the price will be very high.


17 posted on 07/05/2014 1:11:03 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: European Guest

The Americas and Europe are much more tied by common culture than Europe is tied to any other culture. The US and Canada are more tied with European culture than Europe is tied to any other culture. My point is simply that we have too many things in common for those ties simply to be set aside.

But it is possible to damage a relationship. Deceit, faithlessness, and double-dealing can make anyone rethink how they want to relate to you. What might have been close can suddenly become distant.

Obama, Bush 2, Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan: there is only one name on that list that I would say was unconcerned by deceit, faithlessness, and double-dealing.


18 posted on 07/05/2014 1:26:47 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: European Guest
Most American men who once manufactured products, repaired those products and built houses have been increasingly put out of work for over 40 years. During that time, regulations have been enacted to stop the same men from building houses or starting their own small production shops. Our business, political and academic leaders adore foreign nations while hating most of their own American neighbors.

You haven't heard from us (technical men of the working class in the past). Here's a more honest representation of the U.S. political/regulator class that you do hear from in the media. They've destroyed our nation and our families while blaming their evil deeds on us. Most of them are of German or Italian descent, and they are like the German leadership of the past. They worship trees, animals and wild women while starving their own neighbors.

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts

The War on Humans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcEYYj_-rg

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


19 posted on 07/05/2014 4:05:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: European Guest
" We do not want to be controlled by your Stasi and we do not want to be misused because of mean motivation. If you guys continue on this path the price will be very high."

We have no control over that. Our political parties are one, as shown in the articles behind the list of links in my last comment. The most influential people in American politics control those political parties. They destroyed our manufacturing and are living richly on the money that they borrow from other nations.

If you want a change, tell your own global leaders to stop using the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency and stop investing money where it won't be paid back.

Then allow us to decrease the dollar currency to a more realistic international price. That's the only way that we'll manufacture and export enough to stop having balance of payments deficits caused by trade deficits.

People outside of the U.S.A. have been lied to. We are slaves. Many are homeless. The U.S.A. is not really a rich country. It has been an impoverished country and will continue to be an impoverished country for the foreseeable future.


20 posted on 07/05/2014 4:13:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“An employee of Germany’s intelligence agency has been arrested on suspicion of spying for the US, reports say.”

If true, the German would have been working for or run by the CIA or DIA, not NSA.

Anyone who thinks this sort of thing (wrt to Germany) is new is are naive or willfully ignorant. Obama is not trustworthy and his foreign policy is a disaster, but this sort of thing predates him.


21 posted on 07/05/2014 4:19:33 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: European Guest
"The American problem might be that the common German people see Putin much more as a friend than his US-colleagues. You guys are not the good ones anymore on our side of the big pond. There is a basic turnaround in the public opinion."

Political class volks in the U.S. have also been adoring Putin while hating Europe and the U.S.A. If you'd paid attention to most of the comments of the past few months on that issue here, at Free Republic, you would have seen it.

So, it appears that most political people in both the U.S.A. and Europe want Putin to be their leader. Our more influential political volks are spoiled and psychotic. Many of us know that, but many of us don't issue political speech.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 4:24:45 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Gaffer

I’m guessing we got him to spy for us because the US learned something very embarassing about him thru NSA monitering. Standard blackmail technique.

Germany is going to get even somehow.


23 posted on 07/05/2014 4:34:45 PM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: European Guest

See the armored personnel carriers behind the link. Those have been issued to local police agencies throughout America including many small towns.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3173536/posts


24 posted on 07/05/2014 5:03:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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