Posted on 06/24/2014 1:46:00 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Robert David Steele, former Marine, CIA case officer, and US co-founder of the US Marine Corps intelligence activity, is a man on a mission. But it's a mission that frightens the US intelligence establishment to its core....
...Drawing on principles set out in his latest book, The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth and Trust, he told the audience that all the major preconditions for revolution – set out in his 1976 graduate thesis – were now present in the United States and Britain....
"...We are at the end of a five-thousand-year-plus historical process during which human society grew in scale while it abandoned the early indigenous wisdom councils and communal decision-making," he writes in The Open Source Everything Manifesto. "Power was centralised in the hands of increasingly specialised 'elites' and 'experts' who not only failed to achieve all they promised but used secrecy and the control of information to deceive the public into allowing them to retain power over community resources that they ultimately looted...."
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
Oh, very nice. King, eh! I expect you've got a palace and fine clothes and courtiers and plenty of food. And how d'you get that? By exploiting the workers? By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the social and economic differences in our society! We're living in a dictatorship, A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes ...
>>set out in his 1976 graduate thesis
>>Power was centralised in the hands of increasingly specialised ‘elites’ and ‘experts’
I hate to break the news to this guy, but he’s one of those “elite experts” he hates so much.
Or a traitor to his class.
Oh. There’s some lovely filth over here!
He is just pointing out the obvious. A huge central government cannot work.
Although I didn’t read every single word.....he sounds like a commie to me.
>>He is just pointing out the obvious. A huge central government cannot work.
Not just government. He’s talking about big business too. He’s mostly right too. I just thought that it was interesting that a guy with a graduate degree who has worked as an “expert” for decades would be complaining our the aristocracy of experts that we have created for ourselves.
It would be nice if we could get more off our aristocrats to admit it.
Bookmarked.
From just reading the excerpt I think he believes the same as most of us.Its true that the political elites now run everything and there are a lot of evil big businesses in collusion with those politicians. We have the same goal as the author but the method and outcomes are not the same.
Listen -- strange women wearing grimy pants suits distributing lies is no basis for a system of government.
“Although I didn’t read every single word.....he sounds like a commie to me.”
Not a commie, but a relentless statist. What I think this guy is trying to do, and the appearance on the guardian tends to reinforce that, is to provide an alternate construct for the statists to retain some level of relevance. His premises are that the state and it’s cronies are about to collapse of their internal rot. Not that controversial idea these days except to those in deep denial. The question is what then? He is looking for a sort of open source state that is benevolent and wonderful. A competing perspective to this is agorism.
Frankly I think neither perspective is correct. I think that collapse is to be avoided where possible as it’s just as likely to spawn a dark age as a renaissance. If things are going to collapse, you want as soft a landing for you and yours as possible.
I can get a four-pack of tishirts at Target for $19.99, and probably less somewhere else if I looked around a bit. Not bad for something that this bird says takes 570 gallons of water and 11 to 29 gallons of fuel.
I'm grasping for the term for the type of lunacy this piece embodies. Bits and pieces of insight, provocative theories, some truth, some fiction, all wrapped up in a delusional architecture.
I did not get the impression at all that he wanted to strengthen government power. More that he was against the concentration of power (public and private) that our corrupted systems (crony capitalism) have spawned.
I liked the article and agreed with some of it especially his points about the national security state. Totally unsustainable and corrupted. And no worth. And I think that his point that capitalism seeks to maximize profits and externalizes costs is spot on. Of course that is the goal! Don’t think it is evil to have this as the goal, we just need to keep a better accounting of all costs and give producers the information they need to price correctly. Accurate accounting of costs — all costs — would be a benefit to the markets. Prices are a communication, a signal that tells us about supply and demand and a part of that equation are costs.
Anyway, it was an interesting article. Some leftist trappings for sure, but hell it was the Guardian after all.
Likewise, I thought the same thing. He talks about five billion people coming together to openly produce everything for everyone. Good luck with that. Without incentives, most of those five billion will want someone else to produce for them and the lot will starve. Communism forces a lot of people to reluctantly produce for the masses. The guy is full of it.
Lunacy due to exaggerations. Why focus on T-shirts? Why not focus on the waste in the fast-food industry? T-shirts fill an essential role. Not so with all the waste present with fulfilling fast-food orders. How much water and fuel is wasted making cappuccinos and lattes along with the packaging? That would be a far better example of predatory capitalism. But we don't need a revolution to deal with the problem. Nor do we need government intervention (for example Moochelle lecturing us). Over time, common sense seeps into the masses and educates people in a capitalist society.
I think it can be done. My tagline is a link to a group that has a good plan.
A big problem conservatives face in my view is normalcy bias. They come time and again to electoral politics as a way of accomplishing what they want and are stunned when it turns out, for the most part, to be an exercise in futility.
Major kook.
Bump for later.
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