Posted on 06/24/2014 12:31:52 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
No, it was Jeremiah Wright. It's said that Wright was a Muslim at one point (and even that he thinks Obama may still be a Muslim), but he's not Farrakhan.
Whoops, I got the radicals mixed up. Here* is an article showing Obama's closer ties with Wright and Farrakhan. Attempting to conceal his ties with Farrakhan is just pragmatics. Black nationalism (which Obama supports, but doesn't want to be too blatant about) is easiest to advance under the banner of Islam. I will concede that being an elitist lawyer is probably more fundamental to his worldview, but he would strongly prefer the authoritarianism of the Caliphate over the American system.
Obama might be friendlier to Muslim leaders than other college liberals but does he really want such people to rule in the US?If they want to advance the Marxist agenda in America (which Muslims always do when running for American political offices), then he would be glad to support them.
How would a 100% atheist Obama differ in practice from an agnostic or a nominally Christian Obama?
I addressed the atheism and agnosticism link; a lot of agnostics live their lives as if there was no god. "Nominally Christian" would imply a struggle to hold absolute morals, which Obama has none of.
I'd have to say that they aren't really against government restrictions on eating and smoking (and drinking), whether or not they actually follow those rules themselves.
Oh, you're absolutely correct on this, but the Obamas support the restrictions more because they're power-mad megalomaniacs rather than because they want to adhere to those restrictions themselves. There's definitely some cognitive dissonance they (and all Marxists) hold between letting the Hippies rule the day with their degeneracy versus trying to weaken or destroy American businesses.
*I am aware that the website linked to has a lot of awful material, but this particular piece does not appear to have any errors.
Nope, but that’s not the issue.
Yes his father was a muslim. Means little really as his father left the family when Barack was a toddler. Some people with shallow minds will harp on it but what else is new.
Yes, his father was a Muslim, which makes junior a Muslim as well according to Islam.
Yes - muslims make a big deal of shallow crap like that. So what? Means nothing. Obama had a secular non-religious upbringing. He was more influenced by marxism than islam and is now seriously focused on worldwide secular socialism. That is what matters - not what religion his father was when he was 2.
Have a nice evening.
We don’t really know much about his religious training or expectations, or current beliefs, but we do know that he was born a Muslim.
“Yet his political positions are no different from that of the most fervent, Bible-thumping, service-attending Black chrstian.”
I think that’s because he is a common street hustler who learned to preach from Louis Farrakhan. Look how similar their mannerisms are when either one gets really wound up at the podium.
Somehow--and the reason totally escapes me--you have misinterpreted what I wrote.
I was not referring to Obama at all. I was referring to almost all Black preachers, even going back to before Farrakhan. Almost all Black ministers--even the most Southern, rural, and uncontaminated by indoctrination by left wing institutions--has the exact same political ideology as the atheist Barack Obama. They never object to homosexuality, abortion, evolution, soaring energy prices (to end "global warming"), or anything else. It is always and only "race and justice" and nothing else. So if Obama is an atheist, so is almost every member of the Black churches.
We do NOT know he was born a muslim. His mother was not a muslim. He was raised in a secular household according to Barack Obama himself. You can’t know more about Obama than Obama himself. So by what definition are you claiming he was “born a muslim”?
Now muslims would claim what you say because they have no regard for women. They believe all sorts of crazy things like killing people that accept a certain faith other than the one their father just happened to have. Who cares what they believe? I don’t accept their definitions .
What is interesting is that you apparently share muslim beliefs at least on this point because you seem to be saying that just because Barack’s father was a muslim when Barack was born then that automatically makes Barack a muslim for life. Apparently the rest of Obama’s life beyond the moment of his birth means nothing in this regard. To muslims and people like you he is a muslim forever. Very shallow primitive thinking indeed. Enough of this nonsense.
No kidding, and in that religion that you say he is so loyal to and "stands with", and to the Muslims of the world, he was born Muslim.
Already explained. All sorts of wacky liberals side with muslims over Israel. That does not make him a muslim or that he was “born a muslim”. Is that all you have?
His father was a Muslim, that means that Obama was born a Muslim, in the religion of Islam, which is why 100s and 100s of millions of people consider him Muslim.
Why did you start talking about Israel, and are you totally ignorant of the concept that in Islam, the father being Muslim determines if the child is Muslim?
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