True. And Portland had an ACTUAL a terrorist cell, not a "supposed" one. The accused terrorists were tried and convicted, except one who got away, joined Al Qaeda and died in Pakistan fighting the jihad.
And where did the actual terrorists become terrorists?
The most infamous of the Portland Seven was Mike Hawash, who was a VP of some sort at Intel. Here's a little background about his path to Jihad:
He grew a beard and covered his head with a prayer cap. He asked those who had known him for years as Mike to, please, call him Maher. He paid off the mortgage on his house, because Islam forbids paying interest on loans. And he became a regular attendee at Masjed as-Saberthe, the Islamic Center of Portland, a more fundamentalist place of worship than the Bilal Mosque, which he previously attended and which was closer to his home.[3]So, it seems reasonable that the head of this Mosque is someone we would be very cautious about.
you continue: which doesn’t mean the no fly list works
Taken as a group the security measures put into place for air travel post 9/11, which includes the no-fly lists, seem to have done the job. There have been no hijackings oa Ameican planes since then.
you continue: or is just.
Possibly so. It's not prejudice that landed the Imam on the list, though. One might think it a reasonable precaution given that we are still at war with Islam, and this fellow looks to be a radical Islamic type.
Which again does NOT mean the no fly list accomplishes anything.
Taken as a group there’s no proof those security measures have accomplished anything other than inconvenience a lot of people and shred the Bill of Rights. What stops terrorists is hard work by the cops, and sometimes luck. Treating the basic citizen as a criminal solves nothing.
I didn’t say anything about prejudice. The problem with the no fly list is that it’s functionally random. As someone else pointed out up thread, Ted Kennedy landed on the list. Anybody that buys a lot of one way tickets can land on the list.
The no fly list is quite simply police state presumption of guilt, it is at least as evil as any terrorist. It s vile, and people who support it are part of the problem, you’re surrendering MY freedom for your ILLUSION of safety.