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1 posted on 06/23/2014 12:43:28 PM PDT by Kaslin
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“...Time To Go Back To Institutionalizing The Severely Mentally Ill...”

Absolutely. About 85% of the Democrat Party fits that description nicely.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 12:45:05 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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“Sandy Creek Elementary School shooter”

Come on, get the names right at least. That being said, I’d start with every Democrip politician


3 posted on 06/23/2014 12:46:14 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Now here is something Joe Biden can really take the lead on!


4 posted on 06/23/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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um yeah... except this time the libtards want to define ‘mentally ill’ to include those crazy people with conservative leanings....


5 posted on 06/23/2014 12:49:16 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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Start with the ACLU & SPLC


6 posted on 06/23/2014 12:49:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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The psychiatric beds and institutions no longer exist.

Plus, you’re going to be locking up 1,000,000 for the one that is the problem.


7 posted on 06/23/2014 12:50:28 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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if we did this, the democRATS wouldn’t have any candidates.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 12:50:48 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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I'll have to read the whole article later, but a big problem I have is with the statement,

The rate of mental illness in U.S. prisons is five times greater than in the regular population...

Should read,

The rate of mental illness in U.S. prisons is five times that in the normal, unincarcerated population, but less than that of the liberal segment of the populace...

/s

10 posted on 06/23/2014 12:53:21 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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The problem seems to be the meds, they don’t take their meds. Like that “I can’t get a girlfriend” shooter Elliot Rogers, they prescribed him an anti-psychotic and being that he had an almost Obama-like ego - well maybe 0.0000000000000000000000001% the ego Obama has which is still pretty huge, he refused to take it because he felt it made him less than perfect. But you know, how do you force someone to take medication, especially if they haven’t acted out in any dangerous way?


13 posted on 06/23/2014 12:58:35 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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There is something in Florida called “The Baker Act.” Any cop can have somebody institutionalized for evaluation. It almost never happens. Why? Because there’s no budget for it. If there was a budget for it the budget would get used up in no time. Do you have any idea what it costs to keep somebody to modern psychological care standards? Probably several thousand a week.

Before their release by the courts after the ACLU win these people were not treated to modern standards, they were warehoused. Most were released with a bottle of pills which they promptly threw away.

I was a kid when suddenly it wasn’t safe to walk city streets where I had felt safe before.


14 posted on 06/23/2014 12:59:00 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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QUOTE: “Mass shootings today come down to a gradual deterioration in societal values, bullying innocent kids, lazy parenting, mainly due to the incredible demands today. Children are bombarded with increasing violence in video games, movies and TV shows glorifying gun violence. Their brains are at a developmental stage that is at a highly influenceable stage as teenagers. Unless parents take responsibility and limit exposure to this violent media, there is a risk that the least unstable children among us will be wrongly influenced by this garbage.”

I agree with all that, but there is something glaring missing. The schools are teaching/treating boys as girls, disfunctional girls, and worse drugging boys so they might be as compliant as girls. Add that to all that above and it’s a recipe for disaster.


17 posted on 06/23/2014 1:03:21 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Properly done, I agree many of these mass killers should have been institutionalized. What bothers me is that the Rats have suggested on several occasions that veterans and Christians security threats, not far at all from arbitrarily designated “mentally ill”. On matters like this, I have confidence that the Rats will ALWAYS do the wrong thing for political advantage.


18 posted on 06/23/2014 1:03:58 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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The 1962 publication of ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest’ did a lot to change attitudes about this. The movie compounded it.


19 posted on 06/23/2014 1:04:15 PM PDT by Borges
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I agree, but laws will have to be changed. It is nearly impossible for even family to get anyone forced into treatment and few will go willingly. Not only were laws changed to make it very difficult to force someone into getting help- very little money has been spent on research so most of our treatments simply don’t work- some of the meds prescribed make the person more dangerous. Mental illness has just been swept under the rug even though many lives have been ruined and lost because it is not being dealt with.

I know there were absolute horror stories about mental institutions years ago, there were reasons the changes were made. In typical liberal fashion though instead of making improvements they trashed the system and didn’t replace it with anything.


20 posted on 06/23/2014 1:09:26 PM PDT by Tammy8
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A large part of this can be traced to “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” being interpreted as truth, instead of fiction.


21 posted on 06/23/2014 1:12:25 PM PDT by tbw2
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If you cannot be held accountable for your actions because of “insanity” then you should not be entitled to roam about without a legal guardian at all times.


24 posted on 06/23/2014 1:52:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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Having recently buried mom, who suffered trememdously in the last 20 years of her life with bipolar disorder, which ultimately led directly to her early passing, I am the first one to admit I have almost no sense of humor when it comes to this topic.

Yes. It pi$$es me off to see the issue trivialized as a number of posters on this thread have done, in their attempts to politicize mental illness as a D thing. Yes, I know it’s a FR meme, yes I know I should not even comment, but mental illness knows no political party or persuasion.

It is equal opportunity.

Skulking now off to my corner and working on snarking up some thread about which I still have a sense of humor.


25 posted on 06/23/2014 1:56:03 PM PDT by dmz
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The Soviets used psychic wards to "treat" their dissidents.

While I agree we need to bring back the mental hospitals and somehow put a whole bunch of people back into custodial care, don't think for a minute the Left in this country wouldn't do the same with it's "dissidents" if it can get away with it. Then, you have the gorilla of 0bamacare to reckon with. Who knows how that can/will/should play in to the brew.

It might be a more slippery slope than we might imagine. This isn't America, circa 1969. We long ago blew past that milepost where we thought things were getting insane in this country. We are well beyond that.

26 posted on 06/23/2014 1:59:37 PM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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Great idea, but nobody wants to pay for it. That’s why Reagan kicked them loose in the first place.


27 posted on 06/23/2014 2:03:56 PM PDT by Wolfie
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All we have to do is build a barrier around California and Oregon and across northern Virginia to the Maryland border along that border to the Maryland-Ohio-Pennsylvania border and then along the Pennsylvania-Ohio border and not allow anyone to cross those barriers. We will only need two asylums.


28 posted on 06/23/2014 2:04:28 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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