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"Spraying 11 shots at a deer (or group of deer) has little to do with marksmanship or ethics,” wrote James A. Morabit, of Monroeville.

and being exposed to barrages of gunfire from firearms designed for police work and warfare is a reckless hazard that cannot be allowed.”

I detest and loathe people like this. An ignorant, loud-mouth Elmer Fudd, who apparently knows little, or nothing, about firearms (and probably thinks the Second Amendment protects his "right to hunt").

I wonder what this dullard would say, if someone went hunting with a military-surplus bolt-action '03 Springfield, Lee-Enfield, Mosin-Nagant, or Mauser 98K.

Would he still whine and belly-ache about people using weapons "designed for police work and warfare"?

And what about a Remington 700, which has been adopted by the USMC as the M40 Sniper Rifle?

/rant

1 posted on 06/23/2014 9:27:51 AM PDT by holymoly
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The problem with hunting deer with an AR-15 is not that it is semi-automatic but rather the caliber is too small.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 9:33:17 AM PDT by thejokker
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My shotgun has to be plugged to limit shells. perhaps plugging the ar15 to 3 in the magazine?


3 posted on 06/23/2014 9:34:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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There are always the jackasses who don’t care about anyone else’s rights or preferances just as long as their particular cup of tea is not upset.

Remember the former editor of Guns & Ammo? He discovered there are huge number of people who like to use AR style rifles, not only for protection or emergencies but also to hunt with.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 9:36:37 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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Some states restrict the caliber, not the platform, the .223 being deemed too light to allow for deer. But the AR-10 and the Springfield M1A are perfectly viable hunting platforms even there, being .308, and I don't hear anyone complaining about a "spray" from hunters using them.

Just a guess, but Mr. Morabit's horrible experience under a barrage of gunfire is something he could avoid by not eating spicy foods just before he goes to bed.

5 posted on 06/23/2014 9:36:48 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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NY has for years had a five shot maximum on semi autos used for hunting. The purpose was to prevent an overeager hunter from spraying a deer. The regulation was passed years ago before the omnipresence of .223 weapons. Most weapons at the time were surplus M1s and for smaller game M1 carbines. While I have hunted only occasionally my cousin hunted every deer season. He often used his M1 Tanker with a five shot clip. Most seasons rangers and/ or troopers would inspect his weapon for compliance. Modern .223s and Ruger 30s, SKSs and AKs can easily comply with a limit like NY.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 9:37:45 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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I thought they were restricted to shotguns anyway.

My state limits caliber used and maximum magazine capacity, not the function of the action.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 9:42:00 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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Is .223 even a viable deer hunting round? I’m not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I always understood .223 to be a “varmint round”, better suited to small game.

At any rate, both the author of the article and the guy who wrote the original editorial need to get a clue. There are a number of semi-auto hunting rifles out there, and I seriously doubt those that use them “spray and pray” when they hunt.

Also, I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that the proposed law would allow ALL semi-auto rifles to be used, not just those darn old scary “AR-15 style” rifles.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 9:43:16 AM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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A 700PSS in .308 is a fine long distance rifle. At 11 lbs, I'm not going to hike into the forest with that as my hunting rifle. A Ruger "gunsite" .308 at 6 1/2 lbs is a better choice.

Many years ago I went out with my brother-in-law. He carried a Ruger 10/22 and 100 rds of CCI mini-mag ammo. I carried my dad's old bolt action Stevens and 15 rds of ammo in my pocket. At the end of the day, I had two rabbits and 12 rds unfired in my pocket. One ground squirrel left for the coyotes. My bother-in-law exhausted his box of ammo, raised lots of dust and scared some small animals, but none died at his hands. It really isn't the tool. It's the person using the tool.

In defense of my brother-in-law's marksmanship, he has taken the time to go hunting for deer and elk. He has bagged a few. I've never taken the opportunity...mostly because my employer manages to send me on long trips just as hunting season opens.

12 posted on 06/23/2014 9:54:51 AM PDT by Myrddin
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Shame on people who would lump an AR-pattern rifle with, say, a Remington 750.
Both are semi-automatic, but a 750 in 30-06 is nothing like an AR in .223 - even if the AR can be had in .308 and other more powerful cartridges.
14 posted on 06/23/2014 9:55:09 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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I’m a bird hunter not a deer hunter, but I have to ask:

What is “unethical” about spraying your dinner with bullets to be sure of a good, solid, quick, and merciful kill?

It’s what I do with bird shot. Every time.

This dude is really arguing that a chance at wounding the poor thing si morally superior?


15 posted on 06/23/2014 9:55:32 AM PDT by Noamie
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Plants?


19 posted on 06/23/2014 10:02:24 AM PDT by lowbridge
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I didn’t even know they were thinking about doing this here. I’m all for it! Be great for ground hogs.


22 posted on 06/23/2014 10:04:57 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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Only idiots don’t support this...


23 posted on 06/23/2014 10:09:42 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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I used to volunteer to wok gun shows to sign up people for the local gun rights group. I found the same in GA hunters. Usually didn’t get much of this at gun shows, but the hunting shows there was a lot of this attitude that only hunters guns were to be protected under the second amendment - probably all democrats. Ignoranuses who think that only their guns should be protected. P*** on ‘em.


24 posted on 06/23/2014 10:09:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Spraying 11 rounds... What state allows hunters to a 11 round capacity? Here in California there is a 5 round maximum capacity.

Also, is it more humane to hit a deer once and have it run off and bleed out, or hit it 3 times and die quicker.

This is just about evil black guns. I thought the Browning BAR semi hunting rifle was allowed in many states.

What hunter wants to shoot an Elk 11 times and ruin all that meat? There is a reason some hunters only go for head shots.


25 posted on 06/23/2014 10:13:17 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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Liberals are trying to divide gun owners between their trades. It is how it begun with “ why do they need a full auto” and people on the border are now suffering because some cozy selfish jacka$$ hunter up North thought he knew better. If there is anything thag should involve State rights, it is firearms regs.


27 posted on 06/23/2014 10:15:27 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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If he hunts in such a way as he’s shooting at other hunters, he’s already breaking the rules.


28 posted on 06/23/2014 10:17:43 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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"Spraying 11 shots at a deer (or group of deer) has little to do with marksmanship or ethics,” wrote James A. Morabit, of Monroeville.

Maybe they ought to limit hunting to either single shot muzzle loaders or bow and arrow? Wouldn't that be even more conducive to "marksmanship" and "ethics"?

Better yet, how about allowing spears, knives, and tomahawks only?

34 posted on 06/23/2014 10:37:42 AM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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Don’t they allow semi-auto shotguns for hunting in PA?

No puny AR-15 can match the spray of lead from a Remington 1100 loaded with 5 rounds of 3” Mag #1 buckshot!

120 30 caliber lead balls can be sent downrange in the blink of an eye, any one of which can kill you, or a deer.


36 posted on 06/23/2014 10:46:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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If I had an AR and a 5 round magazine (which is the limit in NH) why should I have to buy another rifle for hunting?
One shot one kill. If at all possible.
A hunter worth his salt won't go "spraying" bullets. It's the left's stereotype of a hunter.

44 posted on 06/23/2014 11:21:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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