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Will The Supreme Court Protect Hobby Lobby From the HHS Mandate? (Ruling this week..Your Prediction)
Life News ^ | 6/17/14 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 06/23/2014 5:11:27 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 06/23/2014 5:11:27 AM PDT by xzins
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To: All; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

I think it will be 5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby.

1. IIRC, the contraception provision is NOT part of the law but is a regulation added to the law by the administration.

2. There are a huge number of exemptions already handed out.

3. The court will narrowly rule that Hobby Lobby also can have an exemption.

This will leave it open to change once the administration ends all its other exemptions. But, by then, this administration will be gone.

This enables the court to avoid actually ruling on the law or the regulation.


2 posted on 06/23/2014 5:11:56 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Predicting what this SC will do is ridiculous. After Roberts cave, there is absolutely no way to know, and it’s not worth the effort to try.

After the decision, it may or may not be clear as to the real factors behind it.


3 posted on 06/23/2014 5:19:35 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: xzins

I think it will go against Hobby Lobby because it is a corporation rather than a sole propritor or partnership.


4 posted on 06/23/2014 5:20:01 AM PDT by Portcall24 (aer)
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To: xzins
They are already treating us like cattle, they "force" us to do things by law and yet don't bother to enforce the law when it comes to borders.

They are well on the way to destroying this country. I only hope there are enough patriots left to rebuild after the trogs take over. The elites are going to be surprised when those who they have enabled come after them out of lust for what the elites have.

5 posted on 06/23/2014 5:22:51 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Portcall24

I agree that’s an important issue.

But the exemptions granted to a regulation rather than to a law struck me as a bit more central.

My thought was that all kinds of corporations have corporate beliefs. Mozilla, for example, has beliefs that led them to fire their CEO, whasisname.


6 posted on 06/23/2014 5:24:11 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Portcall24
"I think it will go against Hobby Lobby because it is a corporation rather than a sole propritor or partnership."

I don't see what difference that would make under a 1st Amendment analysis. Citizens United would seem to have resolved that issue in the corporation's favor. Do newspapers loose the right to "freedom of the press" when they incorporate?

7 posted on 06/23/2014 5:26:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: xzins

The ruling will be against Hobby Lobby. Why? Because the State is all about accumulating power. The State cannot tolerate that there is anything beyond its control, which is why the State despises religion.


8 posted on 06/23/2014 5:32:03 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: xzins

I agree. 5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby.


9 posted on 06/23/2014 5:33:40 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: xzins

I think Justice Roberts will protect Obama once again.


10 posted on 06/23/2014 5:33:49 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas' Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: xzins
From your lips to God's ear ....

In addition to your valid points above, I submit two additional ones ...

It runs afoul of RFRA:

... governments should not substantially burden religious exercise without compelling justification;

Since 0bamacare only still stands today as a "tax", it runs afoul of both the equal protection clause of the 10th Amendment (friends of 0bama get exemptions while others do not), and the requirement that all bills raising revenue originate in the House of Representatives.

11 posted on 06/23/2014 5:39:08 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: xzins

I believe the Supreme Court will rule that unbridled freedom to kill children will trump religious freedom.


12 posted on 06/23/2014 5:40:19 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: xzins
Religious objection goes back to the beginnings of our country. It is solid ground. I believe Hobby Lobby will win

BECAUSE anyone in that company is free to go to Planned Parenthood and get those same free services. OR they can go to the store and spring for "o" rings.

13 posted on 06/23/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: xzins

No. Roberts rolls over again.


14 posted on 06/23/2014 5:46:20 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: kjam22

I’m going to say 7-2 for Hobby Lobby...only because Religious Objection has been around since our beginnings.


15 posted on 06/23/2014 5:48:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: xzins
This is not an RFRA matter and the constitutional rights of the Greens don't enter into it. The suit is not against them but against a corporate entity called Hobby Lobby. The question is does a corporation have a right to free exercise of religion?

And the answer should be, why not? The court has already ruled that corporations have a Constitutional right to free speech when they ruled that campaign funding restrictions were unconstitutional. If corporations have constitutional protections in one area of the First Amendment then why not in all areas? Why can't a corporation have a religious foundation and be entitled to religious beliefs that reflect those of the owners or the shareholders? I have a hard time understanding how the court can possibly hold that they don't. If they do rule against Hobby Lobby then it's a slippery slope because if the entire First Amendment doesn't apply to corporations then can it selectively apply to people too?

16 posted on 06/23/2014 5:48:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: xzins

>> I think it will be 5-4 in favor of Hobby Lobby.

I pray that it’s at least 5-4 in their favor.

With this court, however, I wouldn’t bank on it.


17 posted on 06/23/2014 5:50:16 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: xzins

This is the same Supreme Court that discovered a Constitutional right to homosexual marriage. Who knew that was in the Constitution all these years?

I am not optimistic.


18 posted on 06/23/2014 5:53:42 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Recently, though, they didn’t have to rule in favor of prayer at town council meetings in Greece, NY.


19 posted on 06/23/2014 6:02:14 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I’m still amazed that insurance companies started adding personal choice/hygiene items onto health care. You’d think they’d be paying for toilet paper and toothpaste.

It’s crazy that condoms and pills are considered health care.


20 posted on 06/23/2014 6:09:25 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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