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IRS CANCELLED Contract with Email-Storage Firm Weeks After Lernerís Computer Crash
daily caller ^ | 6/22 | howley

Posted on 06/22/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by RummyChick

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) cancelled its longtime relationship with an email-storage contractor just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials’ computers allegedly crashed.

The IRS signed a contract with Sonasoft, an email-archiving company based in San Jose, California, each year from 2005 to 2010. The company, which partners with Microsoft and counts The New York Times among its clients, claims in its company slogans that it provides “Email Archiving Done Right” and “Point-Click Recovery.” Sonasoft in 2009 tweeted, “If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your severs?

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KEYWORDS: communistbastards; coverup; dojrico; gettherope; howconvenient; impeachnow; irs; irsemailarchives; irsemailcontract; irsrico; irsteapartyscandal; lerneremails; loislerner; nojustice; obamasfault; obstructionjustice; thugocracy; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/22/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“Curiously, the IRS de-allocated 36 cents when it closed out its contract with Sonasoft on September 8, 2011.”


2 posted on 06/22/2014 7:43:27 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

well that is just real darn convenient


3 posted on 06/22/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RummyChick

Wouldn’t the company still have the emails archived? When the contract was vacated wouldn’t the company have returned all archived data? Where are the emails. I suspect that the company should be talking to congress.

CC


4 posted on 06/22/2014 7:44:59 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: yldstrk

MORE cover ups.........


5 posted on 06/22/2014 7:45:11 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: RummyChick

Why this country is not standing outside every IRS building in this country with pitchforks and flaming torches is beside me.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 7:45:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RummyChick

Everybody,

Claim EXEMPT on your W-4 for the rest of the year and don’t file a tax return next year.


7 posted on 06/22/2014 7:45:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: RummyChick

Well Sonasoft should have back up of Learners computer, in theory. The question is whom at the IRS asked that all data be scrubbed when the they cancelled the contract. Of course that is an assumption on my part, but we are dealing with a Crime Syndicate that knows how to cover their tracks.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 7:47:59 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

we are not Obama or a 1st level minion or his..

We would have to answer to the IRS and their armed thugs..

not the pusses in congress.

Very bad advice ;)


9 posted on 06/22/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn
Charles Boustany ‏@RepBoustany Jun 20 I'm angry #IRS hasn't been forthcoming about 'lost' emails. I'm working hard to get to the bottom of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIkq1gE89Ts&feature=youtu.be …
10 posted on 06/22/2014 7:49:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Captain Compassion

I believe the email company would still have those emails based on the law that all peoples and companies had to keep their content for several years after making contact....we had a thread on this several years ago too.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 7:50:07 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Gaffer
Why this country is not standing outside every IRS building in this country with pitchforks and flaming torches is beside me.

Those things only happen if the majority of the population is aware. Since the mainstream media is clearly ignoring it, there is no awareness. Now excuse me while I check my Facebook page on my iPhone to see if my friend got his new Xbox.

12 posted on 06/22/2014 7:50:16 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: RummyChick

Just when you think it can’t possibly get any worse. This level of corruption stinks beyond anything I’ve known previously in my 62 years.

Why does ANYBODY trust U.S. Gov about anything?


13 posted on 06/22/2014 7:52:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Right Brother
Chuck Woolery ‏@chuckwoolery Jun 20 Tell you how important this IRS thing is.If what we believe is true it could bring down the President and whole bunch of others,even the IRS
14 posted on 06/22/2014 7:52:27 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: DAC21

The IRS had to talk to someone at Sonasoft to end their relationship, so I would subpoena that person to testify to ISSA committe as to ‘why’ the IRS cancelled their services, and what request did they make about the e mails? The crime of withholding evidence will be exposed... if enough pressure is put on those involved and ...who and when they asked for in favors.


15 posted on 06/22/2014 7:52:56 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: RummyChick

Sonasoft is a software company. Sonasoft does not provide servers for the companies and organizations that lease software from them. The software allows those companies and organizations to administer their archives on their own hardware servers.

It is beginning to appear the IRS was correct to assume that the public is stupid.


16 posted on 06/22/2014 7:53:01 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: RummyChick

So maybe I just caught up but ... these emails were “lost” in 2011 and that’s from one hard drive. They exist elsewhere? I thought they were lost after the investigation started. I admit that I was not delving deeply into the issue but now that I am, I am ever so slightly befuddled on the timing.


17 posted on 06/22/2014 7:53:54 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Right Brother

The media isn’t ignoring it, they’re censoring it. They’re nothing more than criminal collaborators.


18 posted on 06/22/2014 7:54:31 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: savedbygrace

A crashed hard drive would not eliminate the emails.
http://www.storagenewsletter.com/rubriques/systems-raid-nas-san/sonasoft-rebrands-email-archiving-appliance/


19 posted on 06/22/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I still think it’s odd that this contract was for only $13,000, is that typical of a contract to back up emails of 100,000 employees? We could be looking at the wrong contract. There are other contracts in the contract database that were for document storage, and for much larger amounts.


20 posted on 06/22/2014 7:57:45 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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Mary ‏@akamom1996 1m The IRS can find 36 cents owed them by Sonasoft but not the emails... http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/22/irs-cancelled-contract-with-email-storage-firm-weeks-after-lerners-computer-crash/ … Hire a CPA to head the IRS.
21 posted on 06/22/2014 7:58:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: cookcounty

You could be right.

The timing is suspicious.


22 posted on 06/22/2014 7:59:41 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: DaveA37

The COVER UP IS ALWAYS worse than the crime


23 posted on 06/22/2014 8:00:00 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Captain Compassion

The cover up is not complete until ALL is destroyed


24 posted on 06/22/2014 8:01:14 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Gaffer

“Why this country is not standing outside every IRS building in this country with pitchforks and flaming torches is beside me.”

When I was in grade school, teachers would assign busy work so they would not have to teach and we would not have to learn but it was demanded that it be done because it kept the students out of trouble.

the govt. demands so much busy work (aka red tape) nowdays that no one has time to protest anything.


25 posted on 06/22/2014 8:06:00 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: RummyChick
This just gets curiouser and curiouser.

I'm sure the mainstream media will soon be all over this string of convenient events. (/sarcasm)

26 posted on 06/22/2014 8:06:59 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: savedbygrace

No the public isn’t stupid...there is a law requiring paper copies for back up for agencies like the IRS.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/irs-was-using-sonasoft-email-backup-services/

AND how long do they have to keep those paper copies?


27 posted on 06/22/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Ancient Man

“The media isn’t ignoring it, they’re censoring it. They’re nothing more than criminal collaborators.”

I would go for “active co conspirators”


28 posted on 06/22/2014 8:07:25 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: RummyChick

Meet Sonasoft Corp. Chairman of the Board:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3170824/posts?page=18#18


29 posted on 06/22/2014 8:08:25 AM PDT by maggief
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To: cookcounty
I still think it’s odd that this contract was for only $13,000, is that typical of a contract to back up emails of 100,000 employees? We could be looking at the wrong contract. There are other contracts in the contract database that were for document storage, and for much larger amounts.

I agree. What is missing is drilling down to IT event logs, work tickets, etc as well as the nuts and bolts of data retention and storage policy and procedure. Where is the IRS data vault?

If there were a sexual harassment suit involving an IRS employee, that vault would be accessed in a New York minute.

30 posted on 06/22/2014 8:11:31 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Captain Compassion

That’s what I’m thinking. The company should still have those emails. I hope Issa has picked up the phone and called them already.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 8:12:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Gaffer

There is nothing citizens can do to the IRS peacefully that will change them one bit. They are America’s extra constitutional secret police. There are two avenues available to us to eliminate the IRS. One is the Article V CoS the other of course is Congress. I am a great believer in a national retail sales tax. Set constitutionally at say 10%. The income tax amendment would be repealed and income and property tax outlawed. Additionally, we must strip the ability of congress to write tax law. That is, they cannot change the constitutionally mandated sales tax rate or establish any other taxes. You and I know the above is pie in the sky so the easiest way to essentially get rid of the IRS is to go to a flat income tax of say 10%. Then eliminate the IRS. They would no longer be needed as currently constituted.


32 posted on 06/22/2014 8:14:48 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RummyChick

I see the IRS threatening these people if they knew something they had better keep their mouth shut..

Do these morons think that the majority of people in this country don’t know what these fools are up to..They may fool the ignorant people that voted for the Muslim but not us..


33 posted on 06/22/2014 8:14:51 AM PDT by PLD
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To: RummyChick

Evidence tampering from the top and the media goes on full black out answers must not be found out no matter what it’s to keep agenda on track members of the treason party?.


34 posted on 06/22/2014 8:15:34 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They should’ve had the IT director testifying..guarantee those emails are backed up somewhere. The slime they had on the other day is just there to obfuscate.


35 posted on 06/22/2014 8:17:16 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: don-o

Maybe 0bama laundering campaign donation??


36 posted on 06/22/2014 8:17:31 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: savedbygrace

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-010-003.html

1.10.3.2.4 #3 notes that you cannot delete any e mails that could be used for freedom of information or federal information.....that would require a paper copy or an outside back up (sonasoft) that has nothing to do with Lerner’s computer.

Lerner needs to go to prison for withholding evidence among many other crimes, and I will pray she and this Administration are charged and convicted.

This will not stand, and as for ‘for their own hardware servers’ it would not be their own personal computer since their storage is limited and would have to be transferred to the Sonasoft storage server....ALL BACK UP was not corrupted. Only destroyed by criminals at the IRS if not availabe.


37 posted on 06/22/2014 8:18:44 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: rainee

This guy:
Chief Technology Officer — Terence V. Milholland


38 posted on 06/22/2014 8:20:20 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Hey, along with the back-ups.....

How about checking Lois Lerner’s E-mail Recipients Inboxes??

Why is no one saying this? Hummm??


39 posted on 06/22/2014 8:21:43 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Hey, along with the back-ups.....

How about checking Lois Lerner’s E-mail Recipients Inboxes??

Why is no one saying this? Hummm??


40 posted on 06/22/2014 8:21:43 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: rainee
I believe there are a few medical doctors in Congress. If a bill were introduced stating that having surgeons wash their hands before surgery is a useless practice, you know there would be Senators or Reps standing up to say, "I went to medical school, I've practiced medicine for 30 years. The claim being made here is simply outrageous."

Are there no high tech guys in Congress? Isn't there someone like Steve Jobs or Mark Cuban who can stand up and say, "This is complete crap"?

Plenty of people outside Congress know it's BS. It would be nice if someone inside the beltway would call a spade a spade.

As far as I'm concerned, the IRS dishonesty rises to the level of saying, "Yes, we do have a colony on Mars. It's been there for decades."

It's a blatant lie, and everyone knows it. But Obama thinks he can get away with this stuff.

41 posted on 06/22/2014 8:24:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
How about checking Lois Lerner’s E-mail Recipients Inboxes??

I believe they said they did that and that is when, SURPRISE!! they discovered More hard drive crashes. As if any of this hard drive nonsense has anything to do with it.

Who has the password to the cloud and the key to the vault?

42 posted on 06/22/2014 8:24:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Gaffer
"Why this country is not standing outside every IRS building in this country with pitchforks and flaming torches is beside me."

Because they are locations unlisted in any directory. They also move every three to five years to other leased locations within private office buildings. No signs. No listing in the lobbies. The only locations disclosed are the big processing centers. The little local hives are hidden.

43 posted on 06/22/2014 8:25:29 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Ancient Man

Correct. And I believe the IRS is engaged in criminal activities, such as obstruction of justice. If true then the news media is complicit in the criminal activity and may and should be prosecuted under the RICO statutes. We will have to wait until a republican administration is in place to prosecute the activity properly, but that should happen before the statute of limitations runs out. Typically 7-12 years


44 posted on 06/22/2014 8:25:48 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Kackikat

Kackikat wrote:
“I believe the email company would still have those emails based on the law that all peoples and companies had to keep their content for several years after making contact....we had a thread on this several years ago too.”

Exactly.

....and they (the irs) makes US keep EVERYTHING tax-related for SEVEN YEARS, but the head honcho can’t keep HERS???!!!!

grrrrr.....

subpeona that company’s records!!!!


45 posted on 06/22/2014 8:28:31 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: RummyChick

The Obama Administration was simply Lying For Justice.


46 posted on 06/22/2014 8:29:55 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How many do you think it would take? More than a few thousand would be felt within the agency as Im sure they are not geared up to handle anything like this. We could gum up the system pretty good with an act of true civil disobedience.

This or the pitchforks and torches idea. Im liking them both.


47 posted on 06/22/2014 8:31:31 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Its my freedom. YES. I will be keeping it.)
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To: Gaffer

“Why this country is not standing outside every IRS building in this country with pitchforks and flaming torches is beside me.”

Everyone’s sooooo distracted with their dumb-phones, no one except us Patriots cares!


48 posted on 06/22/2014 8:33:04 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: DAC21
The question is whom at the IRS asked that all data be scrubbed when the they cancelled the contract.

There can be no question, given improbability upon improbability, that that is exactly what happened. The IRS told Sonasoft the contract is cancelled, we'll do it on our own, now you must erase all of the emails you have been archiving for us.

49 posted on 06/22/2014 8:33:20 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

“How about checking Lois Lerner’s E-mail Recipients Inboxes??”

Already covered by the Odingo Crime Syndicate, there were six others who’s email was “lost” due to crashed computers. Undoubtedly they were Learners co conspirators. The corruption is not just with the IRS Administrators, but the IT Dept. as well. There is a whole lot of people involved, and surely someone will have stumbled across evidence whom were not part of the conspiracy. It’s hard for me to believe this won’t unravel before Odingo leaves office short of Republican complicacy.


50 posted on 06/22/2014 8:33:52 AM PDT by DAC21
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