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GOP fury after report claims IRS 'recycled' Lerner hard drive
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Posted on 06/19/2014 3:42:23 AM PDT by servo1969

The top Republican on one of the House committees investigating the IRS targeting scandal reacted furiously late Wednesday to a report that ex-IRS official Lois Lerner's hard drive had been recycled, making it likely that many emails sent to and from Lerner prior to the summer of 2011 will never be recovered.

The Politico report cited two anonymous sources, as well as Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, who confirmed that the Senate Finance Committee had been told that the hard drive had been discarded.

"If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about 'losing' e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception," House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., said in a statement. "Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace unless that was the intention."

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KEYWORDS: email; irs; lerner; obama; scandals; teaparty
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There are backups. There are backups of the backups. And on top of everything else- emails are sent to someone, right? So, where are their copies?

This is the Obama administration saying, "You're not getting the damn emails. Now, what are you gonna do about it?"

1 posted on 06/19/2014 3:42:24 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Obama is Law-Less because the Republican “leaders: are BALL-LESS!!!!!


2 posted on 06/19/2014 3:44:16 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: servo1969

I think there is supposed to be hard copies, too.


3 posted on 06/19/2014 3:46:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: servo1969

What you going to do about, you treasonous
EXEMPT, selfserving, drunk, ambien-laced,
whoring, Law-ignoring, bastards in Congress?

Nothing.

Just like in Fast&Furious, you bastards.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 3:46:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Ann Archy

Issa is a tool.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 3:50:37 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: servo1969

It’s too bad the media doesn’t treat this even 1% as seriously as they did the missing Nixon tapes.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 3:53:41 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: servo1969

The emails reside on the Exchange (email) Server, not the local hard drive. Besides, haven’t other Obama staff been using private Gmail accounts to do the dirty work?


8 posted on 06/19/2014 3:55:51 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: servo1969
GOP fury

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.

— Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-28)

Darrell Issa is full of bile and faux rage, which amounts to absolutely nothing. Today will pass into tomorrow, and this too will be forgotten. The endless tyranny will continue -- without consequence to the tyrant.

9 posted on 06/19/2014 3:58:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SC_Pete

More like Issa is a fool. And the rest of them as well.
They are trying to use the rule of law on a bunch of people who are lawless and have no respect for the law. The baraq gang has insulated themselves from the law such that the repubs have been made powerless. The only remedy the repubs have now is to defund the govt. Shut it down. But they won’t do that because they are afraid of the upcoming election in November.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 4:00:06 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: PaForBush

I wonder if the IRS uses a service like Office365? Which is to wonder if the service provider could be subpoenaed?


11 posted on 06/19/2014 4:01:24 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: Texas resident

“They are trying to use the rule of law on a bunch of people who are lawless and have no respect for the law. The baraq gang has insulated themselves from the law such that the repubs have been made powerless. The only remedy the repubs have now is to defund the govt. Shut it down. But they won’t do that because they are afraid of the upcoming election in November.”

If there is anything I’ve learned over the last six years, it is that the Democrats can do whatever they want. I’ve never been an alarmist, but I’m pretty sure that if Dems wanted to outlaw the Republican Party they’d get away with it.

America as it was founded is dead.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 4:02:23 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: servo1969

Cant do anything about it,he just claims executive privelige


13 posted on 06/19/2014 4:05:22 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: servo1969
"This is the Obama administration saying, "You're not getting the damn emails. Now, what are you gonna do about it?""

They won't do it, but here is the answer:

Article One, Section Nine, clause 7 No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law; and a regular statement and account of the receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time.

Cut all funding to the administration and the IRS, the EPA and the Dept of Education for two years. End of problem and a total restoration of the economy.

14 posted on 06/19/2014 4:06:58 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: servo1969

At this point the Regime could start executing every registered Republican in the country. Congress would do nothing. The press would not report it. What’s to stop them?


15 posted on 06/19/2014 4:07:59 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: servo1969

Let me state the obvious: The Republicans need to get some knowledgeable IT people to help them question the IRS IT people about the IRS email systems. How hard is that?


16 posted on 06/19/2014 4:08:45 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: servo1969

"You can trust us. Because, WE are EXEMPT"

17 posted on 06/19/2014 4:08:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

The maggots in the GOP are complicit in the destruction of our country.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 4:10:00 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martino)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“It’s too bad the media doesn’t treat this even 1% as seriously as they did the missing Nixon tapes.”

No they’re too busy dragging Dr. Oz onto capital hill and grilling him about a weight loss plan.................anything but important events and the lib media is silent as usual.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 4:11:29 AM PDT by V_TWIN (white pri)
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To: servo1969

“There are backups. There are backups of the backups. And on top of everything else- emails are sent to someone, right? So, where are their copies?’

I asked the same question yesterday. There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of businesses with copies of the emails denying them the same relief given to the Dems.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 4:12:03 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: servo1969

Some people need to be jailed, lost pensions, etc.

If that doesn’t happen, then it’s going to get worse for the next two years.

AND it demoralizes the people when the government doesn’t have to follow the laws and the people are continuously getting screwed with no apparent possible recourse.

That is not a good recipe for electoral relief.

I know this gets us fired up, but many will just say “forget it - nothing will happen any way”. At least, that’s 0bama’s plan.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 4:12:32 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: servo1969

I’m afraid this won’t be solved without a whistle blower.

Surely someone within IRS has a conscience — or, failing that, bills to pay.

Maybe we can get the Koch brothers to pony up a one million dollar reward for whistle-blowing information, delivered in Federal court and leading to the arrest and conviction of Lois Lerner and/or other high ranking IRS officials.

Get one of THEM to crack by carrot or stick, and it’s bye-bye Bambi, bye-bye Holder.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 4:12:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: servo1969

Hey IRS, the emails aren’t on her hard drive, they are on the server!
How stupid do you think everyone is?


23 posted on 06/19/2014 4:13:24 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Flick Lives

John Boehner has to be part of the cover up.He also wanted the Tea Party crushed. You can’t turn a blind eye to this unless you are part of a cover up.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 4:14:50 AM PDT by magua
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To: Sacajaweau

I was reading that RAID servers, the kind pretty anybody uses these days, are designed to not fail. If one hard drive does fail, it can be replaced as easily as you would put a toner cartridge in a printer.

Nothing gets lost, unless somebody makes it lost.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 4:15:03 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Texas resident

I agree with you—but Issa has not utilized all his options. He has dropped the ball every time.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 4:15:10 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: servo1969

So the IRS is so dumb that emails are only kept on local drives? They are deleted from the Exchange server and there are no local backups, tape backups, and no disaster recovery plan?

Please...


27 posted on 06/19/2014 4:16:01 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: servo1969

They can do whatever they want with her hard drive. The evidence is on servers and backed up every day. Good grief.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 4:16:20 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Exactly. Emails are ONLY kept on local hard drives goes against practically every email architecture and backup plan in the world.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 4:17:27 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Ann Archy

Let’s see the fury of Boehner and Graham. “Why, why, if they do this again there will be action.” I can just hear them now.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 4:17:58 AM PDT by discipler (How's that 'hope and change' working for 'ya? - RL)
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To: servo1969

The response by the Obama administration is worthy of a banana republic.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 4:19:39 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: discipler

Boehner wants the Tea Party crushed. What else can it be.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 4:19:54 AM PDT by magua
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To: kitkat

“And on top of everything else- emails are sent to someone, right? So, where are their copies?”

I suspect the regime has that covered when they announced that six other corrupt Gov. workers had their email lost as well.


33 posted on 06/19/2014 4:19:55 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: montag813

Conversely I could envision Trey Gowdy grabbing Lois Lerner by the scuff of her neck, cuffing her and having her hauled off to the Capitol jail.


34 posted on 06/19/2014 4:20:26 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: The_Media_never_lie

And the GOP acceptance of that answer s worthy of the “Stupid Party” tag...


35 posted on 06/19/2014 4:23:09 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: servo1969

And yet Boehner STILL will not have the bitch arrested.


36 posted on 06/19/2014 4:23:24 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I hope they can break the media/regime logjam. This behavior is bad for any country.

When the government does as it pleases to the detriment of the people, bloodshed inevitably follows. What conditions have, throughout history, been present at the time of bloodshed between a government and its people?

The next logical step for the government is to begin jailing political opponents. “What charges? They were lost in a bureaucratic paperwork snafu. Now STFU.”

It’s close to too late.


37 posted on 06/19/2014 4:23:29 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Darksheare

>> Hey IRS, the emails aren’t on her hard drive, they are on the server!

Not exactly. SOME of her emails were on the server (the ones that went to recipients within the IRS). They turned those over to Congress.

But, you see, the ones sent from that same IRS account to governmental agencies OUTSIDE the IRS automagically diverted to a DIFFERENT file store that wasn’t backed up.

Isn’t that how the email works at your organization? Yeah, mine neither.

>> How stupid do you think everyone is?

They’re too arrogant and narcissistic to give a dxmn whether or not we’re stupid. This is pure-D in-your-face what-are-you-going-to-do-about-it totalitarianism. This is the “I am god” attitude of a Hitler or a Mussolini. The cold comfort is recalling what finally happened to Hitler and Mussolini.


38 posted on 06/19/2014 4:23:46 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Should look for the “paper copies”.....


39 posted on 06/19/2014 4:25:03 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: servo1969

Round up the IT people from her site and put them in front of the special committee. I think we’d get the truth from them.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 4:25:36 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: servo1969
I'm no expert but the emails are on a server not her hard drive. Also I believe that they use Microsoft Outlook. Ask Microsoft.

This is just another middle finger in the face of America and the Republicans.

41 posted on 06/19/2014 4:26:55 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: servo1969

Every agency in government has now been politicized.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 4:27:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Flick Lives
At this point the Regime could start executing every registered Republican in the country. Congress would do nothing.

Let's get serious here. That can NEVER happen, and basically silly.

Seriously tho', the Regime could execute every Constitutional Conservative in the country, and the GOP-e would do nothing. THAT is plausible!

43 posted on 06/19/2014 4:27:32 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Conservative group amends IRS lawsuit

BY JULIET EILPERIN July 22, 2013

A conservative group suing the Internal Revenue Service on Monday amended its lawsuit over the agency’s processing of its request for tax-exempt status to include the agency’s chief counsel, William Wilkins.

Acting on behalf of True the Vote , a Houston-based voter watchdog group, the ActRight Legal Foundation first asked the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in late May to grant its request for tax-exempt status and award damages for what it described as unlawful conduct by the IRS.

Last week, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) released a transcript in which an IRS employee said Wilkins helped develop its controversial guidelines for reviewing tax-exempt applications the agency dubbed “tea party” cases. The IRS said last week that Wilkins, one of only two IRS officials appointed by the president, was never involved in the process.

The panel’s ranking Democrat, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (Md.), has questioned whether conservative groups were actually singled out for special scrutiny by the IRS, citing repeated testimony by agency employees that partisanship played no role in the program.

The lawsuit also added five senior IRS employees — four of whom were working at headquarters, one of whom was based in Cincinnati. The amended suit also includes a new count accusing IRS employees and senior leaders of violating key portions of the Administrative Procedures Act, which prohibits federal employees from violating constitutional rights and exceeding their authority in the carrying out of their official duties.

“This lawsuit is the only way to get all of the answers involving this national scandal,” True the Vote President Catherine Engelbrecht said in a statement. “Our goal is not a speedy settlement or a quiet Washington deal. We will sue, depose and expose every person who came near this illegal scheme to suppress voters’ First Amendment rights. The American people — not just True the Vote — deserve answers.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/conservative-group-amends-irs-lawsuit/2013/07/22/b00198ac-f318-11e2-8505-bf6f231e77b4_story.html


44 posted on 06/19/2014 4:27:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

I saw some footage of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell sitting with Obama, Pelosi and, I think, Harry Reid, yesterday.

Just observing the smiles and laughter from McConnell and Boehner spoke volumes to me. It made me feel a little sick.


45 posted on 06/19/2014 4:29:08 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: servo1969
I've said from Regime day 1, somewhat whimsically at first, that the 'Rats are going for the whole enchilada... they are going for broke... they are going for one party rule.

Every scandal that broke since then, I'd still put forth that thinking... only difference being that each time I thought it was less whimsical and more seriously possible. They crossed the 50-50 point between whimsical and serious a year or two ago. We are now solidly in the area of the 'Rats taking over for good...

46 posted on 06/19/2014 4:30:34 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: servo1969

And still, no call for a special prosecutor.


47 posted on 06/19/2014 4:32:07 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Based on Obama’s lawless actions it is possible that he is trying to maneuver the House into filing articles of impeachment. He calculates that it would damage the GOP conservatives, mobilize his base and generate sympathy from the low information electorate. He can further rely on the weak-kneed Senate, even a Republican one, to refuse to convict. This President would consider impeachment a badge of honor and wave it like a bloody shirt for the rest of his life.


48 posted on 06/19/2014 4:32:39 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: servo1969

They take the public for fools and a$$holes. You know, they’re half right, since half the public voted for them.
This is like the ‘glitch’ that affected healthcare.gov. Enough of the stupid uninformed public will believe it, and the entire media establishment will support it, to make it worthwhile to feed us lies.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 4:33:59 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: dogcaller
"Based on Obama’s lawless actions it is possible that he is trying to maneuver the House into filing articles of impeachment. "

No way, it, obama, is way to much of an egotist to end up like bill clinton, an impeached failure. That said, the upcoming elections may just put some spine in the republicans in the senate. note the word "may" I don't think it will, but nothing is impossible, not even republicans, in the senate, getting some manhood.

50 posted on 06/19/2014 4:38:12 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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