Posted on 06/17/2014 7:47:26 AM PDT by Fennie
The move - certain to worry the West - comes amid fresh tension on the frontier with both sides accusing the other of tank incursions between the two ex-Soviet states, and NATO alleging Moscow has provided military equipment to separatists.
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I would add that their are more Nazi's in Russia as well as more communists and more Stalinists?
Do you deny that?
That’s what makes the pro-Russian line so strange. No one denies that Nazis exist, anywhere. Yet the claim is that people deny it, and that the democratically-elected Kiev government is overrun with them. Meanwhile, on this very thread, we are assured that Russia is not communist at any level. And not a peep.
So we have come full circle: from denying that they were Russian, to Putin admitting they were Russian, to claiming that everyone knew it anyway.
Exactly. Similarly, they call other people Nazis while supporting one party state Russia while it conducts transnational unlawful warfare on it’s neighbor(s). The world can see who the real “nazis” are here.
What you see are volunteers so far. Outraged at seeing mutilated corpses of women and children at the hands of the Kiev junta. This new guy is setting himself up for war crimes trials if there is any justice. But I suspect NATO, the UN and US will look the other way.
I thought it was unlikely that a group of at most a few hundred men to have taken the trouble to design something that polished looking. That the Nazi Azov emblem is probably fake is backed up by a Sky News reporter who went and interviewed them and she reported that "several of them had arm patches with the black and white nationalist flag". Black and red, not blue and yellow.
Right-wing certainly, and maybe some members could be called fascists, but Nazis is more of a stretch.
Give it a rest. Putin admitted that the "little green men" were his. So what if he is using proxies, now?
And I will add that Putin knows a few things about indiscriminate bombing.
Meanwhile there isn't anybody with at least an ounce of objectivity who is impressed with it.
Not communist. Oh please. You also may be blinded by your own bias.
yeah, so says you.
I have happened to witness how Russia has screwed over foreign companies on tenders in Russia, instead giving contracts to lower Russian bidders. What do you call that?
Ukraine demands more border security and freaks out when more border security is on the way.
Anyone who believes Soros has any leverage over the Kiev Coup Kiddies is a "conspiracy nut" but Soros is welcomed by the new President like an old buddy.
Ukraine can't get the huge discount they want and "terrorists" blow up part of the pipeline when no one benefits from a gas disruption except Ukraine.
But people are still happy to pretend the Kiev crowd is not a bunch of criminal thugs no different than the ones they brag about throwing out.
Are you claiming that its Communist to award contracts to domestic companies vs. foreign companies? Some more context would be helpful.
I think someone’s trying to start a world war and it ain’t Putin. Probably the same people that are trying to destroy our country.
Putin is committing mass murder? How did I miss that?
I think you are on to something. Russia has absolutely no interest in having a war. What they will not tolerate is being pushed around by the Obama government and its cronies.
The Cold War is over. The bear is no longer interested in eating US, but if the dinosaur Cold Warriors in the US government keep poking it, it will wake up in a big way.
Uh, that’s democratically-elected “criminal thug.” As opposed to Putin, who is just a criminal thug. So there is still a difference.
How much territory has Russia lost since 2008? How much has it gained?
~I have happened to witness how Russia has screwed over foreign companies on tenders in Russia, instead giving contracts to lower Russian bidders. What do you call that?~
So in your reality it is better to give contracts to a foreign higher bidder?
Since 2008? Crimea is the only territorial change of significance.
To me, Crimea was an excellent move for Putin. Without firing a shot he annexed a place (with a population that was ready and willing to be annexed) and kept the strategic port of the Black Sea Fleet out of the hands of the incompetent Kiev government (which as we can see now, cannot be trusted to behave in a rational adult manner).
Putin was democratically elected and enjoys a very high level of popular support in Russia. The protests that we saw in 2012 were foreign engineered, much as Maidan was. After the election and the crackdown on political activity by foreign NGOs, these protests mysteriously stopped.
POTUS would give his left testicle (if he has one) to have the kind of approval rating that Putin has.
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