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Powerhouse of Scientists Refute Evolution, Part One
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 6-13-14 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 06/16/2014 8:47:17 AM PDT by fishtank

Powerhouse of Scientists Refute Evolution, Part One

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

In 2011, the “Biological Information: New Perspectives” conference was held in which 29 leading design scientists technically assessed critical aspects of Neo-Darwinian theory. This evolutionary theory holds that new biological information arises when mutations allow nature to select between organisms, and when it first appeared many scientists thought it was a brilliant idea. However, according to those participating in the 2011 conference, the theory has proven to be inadequate and now needs replacement. The participants’ major findings, published technically in 2013, were summarized and grouped into three major themes.1 Here, we report on the first theme, “The Nature of Biological Information,” which considers what information is in general, and what it looks like in cells, human languages, and computer software.2 Future Creation Science Updates will report on the second and third themes.

In one paper, German information theorist Dr. Werner Gitt and two co-authors compared biological information to computer software and human language. Many are already familiar with the “language” of genetic code—it has all the elements of human language, including symbols, meaning, syntax, grammar, and purposeful content. Gitt’s team concluded that information, in general, is a non-material entity vital for life. It can be defined as “that which is communicated.” As such, they ask how any material mechanism like Neo-Darwinism could ever produce non-material entities such as biological language?

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KEYWORDS: biology; creation; powerhouse
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1 posted on 06/16/2014 8:47:17 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: All

Always remember,

comments of substance reflect

a mind of substance.

Comments of sarcasm reflect ...

...immaturity.


2 posted on 06/16/2014 8:48:36 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

29 design scietists convene and conclude God did it.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 8:51:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: fishtank

I like stories.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 8:53:34 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: fishtank

long on speculation, short on proof


5 posted on 06/16/2014 8:54:02 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: fishtank

Information theory is not kind to the theory of evolution. Complex information (contained in whatever media) does not just create itself at random.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 8:55:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: fishtank

Seaman’s analysis confirmed what Jonathan Wells said: Perhaps all the DNA—even its repeats—contains vital or useful information.

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The word ‘perhaps’ indicates speculation. How does one confirm speculation?


7 posted on 06/16/2014 8:57:21 AM PDT by dmz
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The word ‘perhaps’ indicates speculation. How does one confirm speculation?

With investigation.

8 posted on 06/16/2014 8:58:43 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

With investigation.

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Investigation is what is used to confirm something in the first place. In this instance, the confirmation is happening prior to investigation.

words mean things.


9 posted on 06/16/2014 9:06:37 AM PDT by dmz
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To: fishtank

Trying to cut off debate with name calling is ..... well immature.


10 posted on 06/16/2014 9:07:45 AM PDT by DManA
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To: circlecity
Information theory is not kind to the theory of evolution.

From my dictionary ... "SYN. -- Information applies to facts that are gathered in any way, as by reading, observation, hearsay, etc. and does not necessarily connote validity ..."

11 posted on 06/16/2014 9:10:55 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: OldNavyVet
"SYN. -- Information applies to facts that are gathered in any way, as by reading, observation, hearsay, etc. and does not necessarily connote validity ..."

please show me an example of a non valid "fact".

12 posted on 06/16/2014 9:16:09 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: fishtank
Comments of sarcasm reflect ...

Just hangin' out with my pal, the friendly potato-eating dinosaur.

Doin' some reflecting...

13 posted on 06/16/2014 9:17:42 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: fishtank

It looks like the auditorium shown in the picture is about a third full.


14 posted on 06/16/2014 9:21:19 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: fishtank
A coherent statement of evolutionary theory might be a good starting point for such a discussion. Also, do most scientists reject the theory of evolution and the related concepts of uniformitarianism and deep time? If so, where are their studies? Why do those pesky geologist persist in rejecting young earth creationism and flood geology? It would be most informative to hear specific refutation of explanations provided by structural geology. What is their explanation of faulting and of the stress that produces various strains.
15 posted on 06/16/2014 9:22:42 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: fishtank
Werner Gitt is an engineer who shifted into being an advocate for creationism.

The “Biological Information: New Perspectives” conference was a conference of young-earth creationists. The probability that the conference would generate any conclusion other than the premise the participants had going in, was vanishingly small.

16 posted on 06/16/2014 9:30:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: circlecity; OldNavyVet
please show me an example of a non valid "fact".

Obama is the Best President the US has ever had.

17 posted on 06/16/2014 9:44:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: JimSEA

So I looked up your link since the evo definition varies wildly. Many on FR have refused to supply one over the years of these debates. That site by UCLA last revised in March 2001 has this in the subtitle:

“controlled random mutations” ~ this is simply not possible from what we know of DNA

full subtitle = aka evo working definition:

A theory of changes in organic design through
controlled random mutations and contingent selection


18 posted on 06/16/2014 9:45:36 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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What I don’t understand is the dogmatic positions held by both sides. Truth should be pursued with an open mind or otherwise you’ll never find what your searching for.

I believed that God used evolution to create the world until I pursued the truth and realized that once all of the onion was peeled away, evolution couldn’t explain anything.

Then I searched for another possible solution, and it was there all along. Looking at the information in the genes, cells, etc. told me that everything in the universe works programmatically. Who was the programmer?

It has to be that which originated matter. Who created matter because either matter is eternal, or our Creator is eternal.

Once you get to the eternal Creator, you can find Yahweh fairly easily.

Darwin knew this and said in his book that if the intermediate species were not found then his theory was not valid. No one reads that part of his tome.


19 posted on 06/16/2014 9:53:04 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: camle

Evolution is nothing but speculation.


20 posted on 06/16/2014 10:02:00 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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