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Why the tea party should favor immigration
MarketWatch ^ | 6/11/14 | Diana Furchtgott-Roth

Posted on 06/11/2014 10:46:34 AM PDT by illiac

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To: Darksheare; Travis McGee; wardaddy; Kenny Bunk

“LEGAL immigration is fine.”

Don’t kid yourself.

The 1965 immigration “reform” radically transformed who is coming to America. Immigrants no longer reflected the ancestry of the American people.

Legal chain immigration from the third world is one of the engines that has turned America into the ethnic-pandering soft, socialistic society that it is today.


41 posted on 06/11/2014 11:07:31 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: ViLaLuz

What is happening it Texas and AZ with those children is:

#child endangerment
#human trafficking
#child abuse
#criminal child neglect due to lack of water and food.

Who should be charged? Obama, Kerry, and Homeland Security. HS went to Nicauragua, El Salvador, and Honduras and lied to those parents to get their teens here.

There are no jobs for Americans so how do they expect to support these kids, they don’t. The use of Food Stamps and US taxpayer dollars. These kids are susceptable to prostitution due to pimps, and gang activity, drug cartel capture, and exploition by pedophiles.

Every person involved should be put convicted and put in prison for the above listed crimes. What HS did not tell them is that our VISA process can push those kids when they are 21 yrs of age to the back of the line for legal status and possibly deport them, and their parents won’t qualify under their being here.

All the Demorats want is the vote at age 18 in 2016...take a look at the age groups...very very little ones vs the 15-16 age group who can vote in Nov 2016...and in 2010...then at age 21 the Dems won’t need them anymore.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 11:08:21 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: wiggen

those who consume their services benefit. for example, my honduran housekeeper has a BF from el salvador who’s willing to shovel my two-car driveway for 15 bucks...better value than doing it myself and throwing out my back


43 posted on 06/11/2014 11:08:28 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: illiac

“Immigrants are productive and make us a richer nation “

Except that every major study ways that illegal aliens are a net cost to the federal government to the tune of $60 billion a year. And that isn’t counting the states’ costs of many billions more.


44 posted on 06/11/2014 11:09:44 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Kackikat

error correction for years 2016 & 2020 not 2010.


45 posted on 06/11/2014 11:10:23 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: illiac

This is satire, right?


46 posted on 06/11/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: DoughtyOne


Liberal utopia.
47 posted on 06/11/2014 11:11:54 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: illiac

We have just had the two highest decades of legal immigration in our history with over 26 million legal permanent immigrants entering during the period 1990 to 2010. In 1970 one in 21 in the U.S. was foreign-born; today, it is one in 8, the highest in over 90 years; and within a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. In 1970 we had 9.7 million foreign-born and by 2010 that number had quadrupled to 40 million. We bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year—more than the rest of the world combined. 44 percent of the adult legal immigrant heads of household and 78 percent of the illegal aliens (51 percent have no high school diploma) have a high school diploma or less. We are importing hundreds of thousands of unskilled and uneducated workers annually who will compete for jobs with the 40 percent of native-born adults who have a high school diploma or less. The results have been devastating.

In the fourth quarter of 2013, the standard unemployment rate (referred to as U-3) for native-born adults (age 18-65) who have not completed high school was 16.6 percent, while for those with only a high school education it was 8.5 percent. The broader U-6 measure of unemployment — which includes those who want to work, but have not looked recently, and those forced to work part-time — was 28.7 percent for native-born adults who have not completed high school and 16.5 percent for those with only a high school education. Minorities have fared even worse.

The U-6 rate for native-born African-Americans without a high school diploma was 40.4 percent and 27.5 percent for those with only a high school diploma. For native-born Hispanic-Americans the U-6 rate for those without a high school diploma was 30.8 percent and 20.9 percent for those with a high school diploma. In a letter from three members of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, they state that an amnesty will “likely disproportionately harm lower-skilled African-Americans by making it more difficult for them to obtain employment and depressing their wages when they do obtain employment.”

In the fourth quarter of 2013, there were only two working-age natives holding a job for every one that was not employed. This represents a huge deterioration. As recently as 2000, there were three working-age adults holding a job for every one not working. 24.8 percent of all children of the native-born working poor live in households headed by a high school dropout.

There are currently 61.1 million American men in their prime working years, age 25–54. An amazing one in 8 such men are not in the labor force at all, meaning they are neither working nor looking for work. This is an all-time high dating back to when records were first kept in 1955. An additional 2.9 million men are in the labor force but not employed (i.e., they are looking for jobs). That means a total of 10.2 million men aged 25-54 – or one out of every 6 men in his prime working years – are not holding jobs in the U.S. economy today. During the decade ending 2010, the largest in our history with 13.9 million legal permanent immigrants entering the country, we had a net loss of 400,000 jobs during that same period. There is no correlation between our job needs and immigration.

Data from 2011 show that an astonishing 57 percent of immigrant households with children accessed at least one major welfare program — particularly the non-cash programs such as food stamps and Medicaid. In 2010, 23 percent of immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) lived in poverty, compared to 13.5 percent of natives and their children. Immigrants and their children accounted for one-fourth of all persons in poverty. 29 percent of immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) lacked health insurance, compared to 13.8 percent of natives and their children. New immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for two-thirds of the increase in the uninsured since 2000. There are 10.4 million students from immigrant households in public schools, accounting for one in 5 public school students. Of these students, 78 percent speak a language other than English at home. Overall, one in 4 public school students now speaks a language other than English at home. Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both.


48 posted on 06/11/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

because you’d rather see an american out of work. Write another cheeck to Rand.


49 posted on 06/11/2014 11:13:19 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
those who consume their services benefit. for example, my Honduran housekeeper has a BF from el salvador who’s willing to shovel my two-car driveway for 15 bucks...better value than doing it myself and throwing out my back

Your Salvadoran chappie might well throw his back out, be treated at your hospital for free, raising your insurance premiums and taxes ... a lot more than your $15.

PS
Either get in shape or buy a snow blower.

OBTW, is the Honduran legal? Is the Salvadoran BF legal?

50 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( A disbarred gay Muslim lawyer from Kenya as POTUS? Sure! What could go wrong?)
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To: wiggen

i supporting hard working americans, like those at the knob creek bourbon distillery. nothing’s better in a Manhattan


51 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:30 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: illiac
I'm all for LEGAL immigration.
All the reform we need is to enforce existing laws.
If we genuinely need more workers of some kind, we can easily adjust the visa quotas.

52 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:32 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: illiac

Because 0bama will selectively enforce whatever law is passed.


53 posted on 06/11/2014 11:16:55 AM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: cuban leaf
I’m all for legal immigration. And, truth be told, if we eliminate all the government direct handouts to citizens in general, I’d be all for increasing the number of legal immigrants.

You want to increase legal immigration to more than 1.1 million a year? One in 8 in this country are foreign-born, the highest it has been in 90 years. We have 21 million Americans unemployed or underemployed. Wages are declining and the labor participation levels are declining. Why do we need more immigants--legal or illegal? And what kind of immigrants and from where?

54 posted on 06/11/2014 11:17:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: OpusatFR

You have it exactly right!! I have lived sixty miles from Mexico all of my life of 70 years. Most of the good workers that come over during harvest times come with green cards or work visa’s. Their families have done this for generations. The problem right now is the children that are coming over in droves. Twelve years old and up are coming without their parents. Who knows their parents could be dead. These children are being housed in San Antonio at this time. Our government needs to address this situation as it will only get worse. The problem they will talk about it and do nothing. Our public education systems are in a mess among dozens of other things, health care, VA and etc. Until we quit sending folks who are professional politicians to Washington nothing will ever get fixed. I really think it is only those of us who are senior citizens that really care. Young people are to busy trying to make a living for their families.


55 posted on 06/11/2014 11:17:33 AM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: illiac

I know these dopes know the meaning of ILLEGAL! We object to ILLEGAL immigration! Stand in line, get your shots and wait your damned turn. Why is this so hard? Ellis Island? ANYONE?


56 posted on 06/11/2014 11:17:36 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

not sure. i don’t habla espanol and haven’t asked for to see her green card


57 posted on 06/11/2014 11:17:42 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: illiac
But the Tea Party should favor sensible immigration reform with border controls.

Seal the border and deport 20 million illegals first, then we can talk.

It would result in additional economic growth, allowing the government to cut spending and lower taxes — key tea-party demands.

I agree, sealing the border, deporting 20 million illegals and ending the anchor baby scam, would reduce spending and lower taxes.

58 posted on 06/11/2014 11:18:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

i would’ve preferred to hire a surely-legal puerto rican, but non eof them wanted the work


59 posted on 06/11/2014 11:19:03 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: BitWielder1
If we genuinely need more workers of some kind, we can easily adjust the visa quotas.


60 posted on 06/11/2014 11:19:37 AM PDT by kabar
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