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The Madness Of Crowds And The Great Insanity (the coming economic collapse)
Zerohedge ^ | June 8, 2014 | Ty Andros

Posted on 06/08/2014 6:42:22 PM PDT by Perseverando

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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Never gonna happen. “

That’s exactly what they said in Venezuela and Argentina.

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21 posted on 06/08/2014 7:53:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Venezuela and Argentina had a negative interest rate policy? When?


22 posted on 06/08/2014 8:01:55 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kartographer

“The masses are being plundered on a scale which is inconceivable and unmatched in history; it is the source of the middle classes dying in the developed world. The developed world has become a well-disguised plantation of serfs and slaves. They are given nothing to store and save their labor in as the currency they hold are printed endlessly and have no reserves to back them and are redeemable in NOTHING, contrary to every sound currency in history. Modern day money is nothing less than a wealth confiscation scheme run by morally and fiscally bankrupt central banks and governments against their own citizens.

Is there any human activity where you are not taxed today in one way or another? Is there any major financial holding which people own free and clear of annual taxes or don’t have to share any gain with the masters in central governments? They are your partners in everything even though you performed the work to buy your assets. The government has given the working man nothing in exchange for sharing in the profits or appreciation. Government services such as roads, schools, sewers, police and courts are paid for out of taxes.”

A good article.


23 posted on 06/08/2014 8:07:21 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Paladin2

What would good investments nowadays be?


24 posted on 06/08/2014 8:08:02 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Printing money doesn’t create debt.”

No it creates inflation, which is helpful in paying off debt.


25 posted on 06/08/2014 8:10:51 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Lurker

Cyprus.


26 posted on 06/08/2014 8:11:42 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: yorkiemom
No it creates inflation

Are you sure?


27 posted on 06/08/2014 8:21:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Thanks to Woodrow Wilson, every US federal reserve note (dollar) in circulation represents a debt owed by the govt of the US to the federal reserve banking system. Therefore, Money = Debt and, hence, Creating money = Creating debt.


28 posted on 06/08/2014 8:24:56 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Perseverando

**Never in my 30+ year career as a market observer have I seen so many out on a limb which is about to be SAWED OFF.**

BTTT!+


29 posted on 06/08/2014 8:30:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Can someone hold all bad things from happening off for two more weeks. I get some money from an inheritance then. I will then be finally prepared for whatever.


30 posted on 06/08/2014 8:36:33 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z

You Single?


31 posted on 06/08/2014 8:49:40 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: RC one
every US federal reserve note (dollar) in circulation represents a debt owed by the govt of the US to the federal reserve banking system.

That's an interesting claim. You think the US government borrowed the $20 in my wallet from the Fed?

32 posted on 06/08/2014 8:51:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: yorkiemom

What ever you will need to consume over the next 5years that you can store.


33 posted on 06/08/2014 8:55:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Big Red Badger
No, I am not. Thirty six years to the same woman. Thanks for asking.
34 posted on 06/08/2014 8:58:36 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Lurker

Printing money doesn’t create debt.”

It does create inflation, however.


Well yes, that’s the goal. The FED has an inflation target of 2% (as they define inflation). I’m not saying the FED has good policy, that’s a different discussion.

The FED printed $30 trillion? That’s much less than the wealth that was destroyed thourgh asset and labor deflation since 2007. So, the net effect of the financial crisis and the money printing has been deflationary. Without the printing we would be firmly in deflation. (Again, not commenting on the efficacy of the policy, just noting it.)

I never melt down over the rightness or wrongness of policy, that is a waste of time. Govt policies are things to work around, that’s all. One takes advantage of policy when possible, and minimizes damage from policy when profit isn’t possible.

I estimate the FED will have to walk the current tightrope between inflation and deflation for another 9-11 years. Whether it can do so is unknown.

Some contingency planning is advisable.


35 posted on 06/08/2014 9:08:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
what does that $20 say at the top of it? FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE. Where did that federal reserve note come from? the federal reserve of course. What is the federal reserve? a Banking cabal. How do banks make money? By lending out money i.e. federal reserve notes at interest.

Sp, yes. that $20 bill in your wallet was borrowed by the US government and will be paid back to the federal reserve plus interest.


36 posted on 06/08/2014 9:08:45 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
How do banks make money? By lending out money i.e. federal reserve notes at interest.

The Fed doesn't lend out FRNs.

Sp, yes. that $20 bill in your wallet was borrowed by the US government

Why do you feel the US government needs to borrow FRNs?

and will be paid back to the federal reserve plus interest.

Why would the Treasury repay anyone for my $20? You're not making any sense.

37 posted on 06/08/2014 9:13:48 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Fed doesn't lend out FRNs.

Yes they do. to the US government.

Why do you feel the US government needs to borrow FRNs? where do you think that federal reserve note in your wallet came from then?

Why would the Treasury repay anyone for my $20? You're not making any sense.

the treasure won't repay them. You will. through your taxes. what do you think it means to pay "interest on the debt"? look at the graph I just showed you. That's your obligation to the federal reserve.

38 posted on 06/08/2014 9:27:56 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: RC one
The Fed doesn't lend out FRNs.

Yes they do. to the US government.

Where does the US government spend FRNs?

what do you think it means to pay "interest on the debt"?

That's interest the Treasury owes on bonds they sold. Not on FRNs.

That's your obligation to the federal reserve.

No it isn't.

39 posted on 06/08/2014 9:39:18 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

But if you have a family member with a big mouth, keep it to yourself so you don’t have to shoot a burglar.
Good idea though!
And a small wad for your BOB/’Get out of Dodge bag’.
Tell someone you trust about the stashes so the cash doesn’t get lost if a you get run over by a bus.


40 posted on 06/08/2014 9:50:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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