Posted on 05/22/2014 5:32:59 PM PDT by Nachum
It wasn't off the cuff like the WH said.
Am wondering if WH computer geeks inserted the memo...or altered it.....or redated it. Geeks can do anythong.
Mr. Snowden...help us out. We need some truth.
Good men died because Obama has other priorities.
He headed off to a fundraiser the next day.
The POTUS doesn’t just hop up and get on a plane.
A lot of planning and logistics to into a presidential trip.
None of that was suspended. Add to all this, the survivors of the attack still haven’t been heard from.
They don’t want any of the truth to come out on this and will do anything to make sure that it stays that way.
How can a video, produced in the US, have probably less than 300 hits worldwide, spark multi-city protests in Africa?
How can the White House know about an obscure internet video with less than 300 hits, and figure out THAT is what is sparking protests in Africa?
This FLUNKS the smell test. BADLY.
“I despise these people. They had this excuse ready to go before 9/11. If unrest or an attack occurred, blame the video.”
Did you ever bother to consider the possibility they planned the attack and the protest over the video causing the attack was a cover story?
No, I have not gone that far. You are talking Murder 1 and Treason.
I think they were running weapons out of Benghazi to Al Queda in Syria.
This smells like Hillary Clinton.
It smells all right.
“No, I have not gone that far”
Then you better go that far.
Hillary started her talking points about the video before anything had happened.
BTW, if they are chummy enough with al Qaida to send them weapons then they are chummy enough with al Qaida to get al Qaida to attack and take the weapons and provide themselves with a cover story as to how al Qaida got the weapons.
Those 35 or so rescuees that the State Department won’t let be interviewed might shed some light on that.
If what you are purporting turns out to be true, everyone involved should be executed, including the president.
Maybe they were checking to see if the movie excuse had been posted.... Getting lies in place is important for democrats...
Barky’s quick response to a terrorist attack, call uTube. Well that calms my fears as to our nation’s national security issues.
The day after the attack , Victoria Neuland said that 'we could see what was happening, almost in real time'.
That would suggest that there was a drone overhead.
It was later verified by Panetta that there was an "unarmed" drone in the area.
Has that ever been verified ?
gaijin: " If GayMuzzie’s guys had SOME REASON to want the Bengazi resistance to suddenly stop,
then it would be logical for top leadership do what they could to induce the SEALs to disclose their positions —
to radio, “OK the zoomies are inbound so paint your targets for them...”
That would assume that they had FILR , or some sophisticated system available to them to sight the 'spotters'.
If this was all about arming jihadists/ Mooselimb Buddyhood, this is not outside of the realm of likliehood.
Never before has a Commander-in-Chief left troops in harms way without an attempt to rescue them.
Incidently , where are the other approximately 30 other "State Department Employees" who were rescued that night ?
The 30 STATE DEPT. employees rescued have been sequestered ,no questions by inquiry, no statements given , ..FOR A REASON !!
I want to know why they havent been questioned !!
Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
Yes. This article (from Sept 12, 2012) has info about the movie. Note: the you Tube link in the article does not work.
There’s an al Qaida doc recovered in Afghanistan.
It’s a letter from Osama bin Laden to Mullah Omar.
It was listed as doc # AFGP-2002-600321 in what was the CTC at West Point’s Harmony Database.
That doc is as close to the terrorist playbook as you will ever get your hands on, but it’s not the playbook for the terrorist overseas.
It’s the playbook for the people in this country the terrorist are working for. The people responsible for making the PREPARATIONS for the attacks.
I’m sorry, did I say PREPARATIONS for the attacks?
There can’t possibly be preparations for the attacks, we learned from Benghazi the attacks are “spontaneous” now haven’t we.
In the doc OBL makes the statement to the affect “the media (meaning news) is 90% of the preparation for the battle”.
Our little lefty friends in the news media, at the direction of Hillary Clinton, have been orchestrating news stories for the attacks then following up with the spin of the news after the attacks.
The first time they tried to use a version of the “spontaneous” lie was the 1st WTC bombing in 1993 when the news media pushed and pushed to get Bush to send troops into Somalia, then after the WTC bombing claimed the bombing was a “spontaneous” response to Bush sending troops into Somalia.
In January 2006, the ACLU with the help of al Jazeera, Osama bin Laden putting out a tape, and the MSM again tried to concoct a version of the “spontaneous” lie.
Obama tried to concoct a version of the spontaneous lie with the airline plot in 2012 just a few months before Benghazi, but the AP screwed up his attempt when they released information in their story before Obama could come out with his story.
The AP released info that the terrorist had given the govt agent the bomb then told him it was his call as to the TIMING of the attack.
Obama sent people to Florida to orchestrate protest in the streets over Trayvon Martin, then Obama intended to announce the terrorist had planned the attack on the plane as if the terrorist had picked up on the protest in the news and “spontaneously” planned the attack.
The AP letting it be known the govt agent had been holding the bomb and it was his call as to the timing of the attack screwed it up.
Obama controlled both ends, the protest and the timing as to when to announce the planned attack.
Treason, mass murder, waging war against the US, take your pick it’s all there.
There is no way around it, Hillary and Obama planned the attack.
As I said, Benghazi is simply Chappaquiddick on a geo political level. Instead of trying to save Ambassador Stevens (who may have been Obama’s partner sort of like Mary jo Kopechne was Ted Kennedy’s partner), the Obama administration’s first response was saving their political skins. The late Edward Kennedy gave his first priority to saving his political skin and the guy he endorsed, Barack Hussein Obama, is doing the same thing on an international level.
Who in the White House gave the order to call U-Tube, and why did they plant the false story of a Video?
Who? That is the $64,000 question.
“Why” is an easier one to surmise. They did not want the real reason found out.
Colonel Phil “Hands” Handley is credited with the highest speed air-to-air gun kill in the history of aerial combat. He flew operationally for all but 11 months of a 26-year career, in aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F-15 Eagle, and the C-130A Hercules. Additionally, he flew 275 combat missions during two tours in Southeast Asia in the F-4D and F-4E. His awards include 21 Air Medals, 3 Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Silver Star.
Here is what Col. Handley wrote in response to Panetta and Dempsey’s claims there was no time to send help to Benghazi
Among America ‘s fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds.
The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEAL’s who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty.
Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog” press has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming.
The contention “that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference” mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft is simply Bull Chit, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trots out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing.
The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words). Hicks immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”
At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down”. By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various “Command and Control Agencies” so everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going
At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.
So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really “was not available” what about this:
When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.
By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.
The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.
Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.
Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to return to Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.
As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act — screw them. It is time our “leadership” get its priorities straight and put America’s interests first.
The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins” and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless P.O.S. terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug” on Superman’s cape.
Of course all this depends upon a Commander In Chief more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rested for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. It also depends upon a Secretary of State who actually understood “What difference did it make?”, and a Secretary of Defense who was watching the feed from the drone and understood what the attack consisted of instead of making an immediate response that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.”
YGBSM!( You Gotta Be Chittin’ Me)
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.
FOR THOSE OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THIS, DO ONE THING FOR ME AND FORWARD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!! TO AVOID THIS HAPPENING AGAIN, WHOMEVER GAVE THE “STAND DOWN” ORDER NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED!
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