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Supreme Court justice agrees: First Amendment limits only Congress
Renew America ^ | May 10, 2014 | By Bryan Fischer

Posted on 05/10/2014 11:00:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: gitmo
"They sure deprive people of 2nd Amendment rights."

Incorrectly, of course. Unlike the First Amendment, the Second Amendment does not mention Congress.

21 posted on 05/10/2014 11:49:35 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bm


22 posted on 05/10/2014 11:51:36 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jim Robinson

But in becomes a two edge sword regarding speech. .that means everyone but congress can limit speech..

It means everyone on but congress can establish a local religion.

And if you apply to guns..

It means everyone but congress is free to take them from you.

Truth is we live in a world of government and buercrat anarchy...

There a collection of federal, state & local agencies can do to you whatever then dam well please at their whim and toss enough legal BS justification spin that they get away with it.

They have a very low and tight lid screwed on the jar grasshopper


23 posted on 05/10/2014 11:54:22 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

See Post #20. The “incorporation clause” is another invention of an activist SCOTUS.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 11:54:56 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson

——Congress and Congress alone is bound down by the chains of the First Amendment.——

Now if we could bound down Obama and his EO’s

The man thinks he is King.....


25 posted on 05/10/2014 11:55:24 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jim Robinson

Profoundly true and most problematic when, for example, the Islamic lobby pushes campus code-type laws and restraints, as far as state constitutions allow, at the state level.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 11:57:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RIghtwardHo
The correct understanding of the free exercise clause is that one is free to express his religious faith in the marketplace, or the city hall. That includes moslems jews zoroastrians and whoever else wants to do so.

As Thomas Jefferson said, What difference does it make if my neighbor worships one god or a hundred gods? He neither steals my wallet nor breaks my leg.

Courts would do well to remember that where there is no harm, there is no call for legal intrusion. Of course that proposition plentifully applied would ruin the legal industry, so expect it to appear sparingly.

27 posted on 05/10/2014 11:59:30 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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28 posted on 05/10/2014 11:59:31 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Jim Robinson
Supreme Court justice agrees: First Amendment limits only Congress

Huh?

The Equal Protection Clause is part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The clause, which took effect in 1868, provides that no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction "the equal protection of the laws".
29 posted on 05/10/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Hoodat
It s quite clear that in 1787 there was no intention for the Religion clause of the First Amendment to be applied by the federal government to the states. We know this because there were states at the time, represented in Convention, which had officially established religions. There was no contesting of this at the Constitutional Convention.

One would seem confident in assuming that the other clauses were likewise closely drawn and intended for the limiting of the Federal government only. That was, after all, why the Bill of Rights was insisted upon in the first place. There was no intention at that time to be limiting the rights of the States, as the Ninth and Tenth Amendment illustrate.

It is safe to say that the Founding Fathers never even conceived such a usurpation of power to the central government as was extracted from the postwar Union in the creating the Fourteenth.

30 posted on 05/10/2014 12:09:48 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PapaNew; christx30; Jim Robinson

Supreme court ruled that the 2nd amendment IS incorporated against the states.
Couldn’t happen if it didn’t exist.


31 posted on 05/10/2014 12:14:30 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Hoodat

Sec 1 Amendment 14.

Thank You for beating me to having to say it.

Pretending that Supreme Incorporation of the Bill of Rights is needed to bind the States to them is reversing the outcome of the Civil War.


32 posted on 05/10/2014 12:14:35 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It and the Constitution limits ALL of the Federal Government.


33 posted on 05/10/2014 12:18:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PapaNew; christx30; Jim Robinson

PN, look up “MacDonald Vs Chicago” and “Nordyke Vs King”.
Also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2233526/posts


34 posted on 05/10/2014 12:20:36 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: gitmo

Yes they do.
NY “Safe” act for example.


35 posted on 05/10/2014 12:22:51 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Jim Robinson
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
36 posted on 05/10/2014 12:25:57 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Jim Robinson

A lot of confusion over the years might have been avoided if the 10th had been put first in order.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 12:28:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Bkmk


38 posted on 05/10/2014 12:33:04 PM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Jim Robinson
States' rights works only if people can declare independence from abusive states and create a new state that works for them.

At the moment, though, a typical state operates like a smaller version of the federal government with all the same potential abuses of power.

Perhaps what we need are city rights or town rights. People could then pick and choose the town or city that's right for them, or incorporate a new town or city. Reducing the restraints on any government larger than that though is just too dangerous.

39 posted on 05/10/2014 12:42:34 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: freerepublicchat

What we need to do is never give up the fight of defending the constitution and the founding principles. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson spelled out our final recourse when the government becomes destructive of our unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and the ability to secure these rights.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


40 posted on 05/10/2014 12:50:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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