We have discussions here regarding the merits of Russia’s intervention inside the Ukraine. Much is made of the mindset of the Russian speaking populace. Much is made of the supposed corrupted criminal element in the government of the Ukraine. Sadly lacking is the man on the street angle here.
Imagine people making the case for military action against our nation, the corrupted element within our government. Could such a case be made? Why of course, we make it all the time.
Right now I sit in a pub restaurant in Santa Fe Springs, California. Around me sit the average Joes and Jill’s. Couples, small gatherings of people congregate. Business is discussed, birthdays are celebrated, young people share moments of love. These and others are moments shared by the common people the world over.
Folks, I want to present the common people of the Ukraine to you. Take a good look for they are us. They love their nation as we do our own. They do not wish to have outside meddling. They do not wish to see their homeland carved up by a maniacal strong man. They want to be left alone as a nation to congregate and celebrate their rich heritage. And yes, that heritage does include commonality with Russia. In real terms though, that was then and this is now. For them, it is so been there done that. They are the citizens of the Ukraine as we are citizens of the U.S.
If I cannot stand up for these people, I cannot stand up for my own people, and not be a hypocrite. I either believe in self determination for the common man or I don’t. Well, I do.
I communicate with a number of people in the Ukraine. I talk to them about family life. I am interested in how other people live. What do they enjoy? What do they do for fun?
Listening to what they have to say, I find it remarkable the similarities between us
One individual explained that they celebrated May Day in a park beside a river eating BBQ and more traditional foods. BBQ? That threw me for a loop. And then another person told me the same thing. Folks, the heart and sole of these people is our heart and soul.
I ask you to re-evaluate your perceptions. On Sunday a special election will take place, and the fate of the nation these people live will be decided. Please know the groundwork to steal half of the Ukraine has been laid.
Please do not embarrass freedom loving people with moronic statements to the effect the Ukrainian people have spoken.
While it us true that they have, the truth of it us that they spoke their minds in private, and to a single person, they are us. They love their nation, all of it.
I declare my solidarity with the people of the Ukraine. Long may their flag fly over the whole nation they love.
None of these people hate Russia. They simply love their homeland more.
I join them in that with no qualifications whatsoever.
Care to join me?
If the explanation was as simple as you represent, I might agree. But it isn’t.
The larger geo-political issues aside, the whole country has been like a larger, even more corrupt version of Detroit for almost two decades. The Mafia/government connections are well documented, all the way down to local officials.
Now, imagine the DC government has fallen in a violent coup, the rest of the country is as bad as “Detroit”, and one of the first proclamations of the new government is that they intend to wipe out the culture and language of “White People”, for example.
Across the river from Detroit is Canada, a much more prosperous country, with a brighter economic future than yours, were “White Culture” is celebrated and secure.
Some will decide that joining Canada is the future.
Some will decide that independence from DC is the answer.
Some will decide that they should fight to take back the government in DC is the answer.
Some will defend the status quo, for a myriad of reasons.
There are no simple answers here.
quote—’’action against our nation, the corrupted element within our government. Could such a case be made? Why of course, we make it all the time.’’
And if our congress had the same balls as Ukraines
parliament, and listened, and voted Ocrook and crooked
administration out, we’d expect him to leave, not be
put upon by some outsider who got mad at us for
giving him the boot.Ed
If I cannot stand up for these people, I cannot stand up for my own people, and not be a hypocrite. I either believe in self determination for the common man or I don’t. Well, I do.
D1, well said.
Sir, with all due respect,watching these punks with cheap billy clubs attack people one on one while hundreds of Ukraine riot police stand idly by just watching and “the people” themselves not fighting back causes a lot of us to wonder whether or not these people have any grasp whatsoever of what freedom means. Indeed, maybe they simply deserve a Putin style dictator.
The first thing Freedom means is that it doesn’t just happen. Your people don’t seem to be prepared to make the sacrifices of blood and funerals it’s going to take to throw off these Russian/Putin led thugs.
In 1836, here in Texas, the Putin of that era marched into Texas with 5,000 of his thugs and ran into 180 guys at the Alamo that knew what Freedom meant and were prepared to FIGHT and die for it and DID! Simple as that! No You Tubes, press releases or ANYTHING. Just one hell of a fight!
In Bunkerville, Nevada a few weeks ago, a few hundred cowboys stood up to men with guns and we all know what happened there.
At San Jacinto, 1,500 odd Texans destroyed Putin’s (Santa Ana’s) Army.
These are just a few examples but they collectively raise this question relative to this Ukraine brewing war issue.......”will the Ukraine people fight like Americans historically do when pushed around?” Those videos say no, they run.
So, my respectful suggestion to your people is let’s see some video of your countrymen fighting back in situations like this. Then maybe more Americans would be willing to support them. We’re always “all in” for the fighter against oppression and have proven that beyond any doubt. It’s our weakness! We can’t stay out of other peoples wars!
I will leave you with a quote from one of America’s most fearsome generals “War means fightin and fightin means killin”!
Good summary.
There is no doubt that the events are being manipulated by Putin and his allies.
As one Russian professor said (just before being fired for his statement), Russia and Ukraine should be the best of friends. There is no reason for all this disturbance, and it does Russia no good to try to swallow up sections of Ukraine, when every mutual advantage can be had by friendly relationships.
Unfortunately, this is not Putin’s way of thinking.