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To: SampleMan
Yes, you're correct. I do reject the notion that one man or woman can determine their nation's interest. Maybe I'm a crank, but that's how I see it. Using the opposite thinking, you'd have to also believe that Saddam and Castro were representing the interest of their nation during their reign of tyranny.

As for Putin’s putative popularity, I think that’s difficult to verify. Russia today is not a free and democratic country. Free assembly is denied, as is a free press. The press not only cannot criticize Putin they must praise him, similar to North Korea. It’s more an allegation than a proven fact that Putin is popular. And, even if true that he is popular, it’s nothing more than a passing phenomenon much like Hitler’s popularity when he achieved his initial successes at low costs.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 4:46:13 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
So, is a person like Bill Clinton, elected with a plurality, but not a majority of the votes, capable of representing their nation's interests? How?

Even someone elected with 60% of the vote cannot claim to be carrying out the wishes of all their countrymen. So what of that? Aren't they only 60% legitimate?

What we concede to the majority, much of the world concedes to the strong. We may not agree with the wisdom of their choice, but it is nevertheless their choice. They would rather have a strong ‘king’ than a weak prime minister, and they would rather have a little repression than mandatory homosexual instruction and islamification.

The press in Russia is far from being like North Korea. In fact, it is very much like the press in the U.S., with the vast majority of supporting propaganda being totally voluntary, from like-minded and adoring journalists. The vast majority of our media is nothing but the communication arm of the socialists. They don't need to be controlled. They just need to be fed. In fact, kick the fairness doctrine and a few more Democrat/media ideas up to speed and you'll have almost the same thing here. In fact, within 5 years, you would have exactly the same things.

The average Russian state of mind supports Putin, and supports cracking down on dissent. Like the standard German on the street in 1905, they personalize the power and glory of their leadership and their communal stature as a great nation; willing to trade individual liberty and dignity for the glory and dignity of the nation. Tell me, which is worse, trading individual freedom for national strength or an EBT card? You can argue that such rationale isn't truly in the national interest, but the same applies to the rationale of those who voted for Obama.

I'm not a fan of Putin or any authoritarian, but you make a huge mistake in not understanding the mindset of the typical Russian. If he has their support, it doesn't really matter how or why. One of the mind-boggling things about Stalinist Russia was the ability of Russians to take pride in the strength and power that Stalin brought to Russia, while simultaneously being crushed by that same state.

18 posted on 05/09/2014 5:58:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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