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Spy Plane Fries Air Traffic Control Computers, Shuts Down LAX
NBC News ^ | May 2nd 2014 | Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 05/03/2014 1:15:20 PM PDT by george76

On Wednesday at about 2 p.m., according to sources, a U-2 spy plane, the same type of aircraft that flew high-altitude spy missions over Russia 50 years ago, passed through the airspace monitored by the L.A. Air Route Traffic Control Center in Palmdale, Calif. The L.A. Center handles landings and departures at the region’s major airports, including Los Angeles International (LAX), San Diego and Las Vegas.

The computers at the L.A. Center are programmed to keep commercial airliners and other aircraft from colliding with each other. The U-2 was flying at 60,000 feet, but the computers were attempting to keep it from colliding with planes that were actually miles beneath it.

Though the exact technical causes are not known, the spy plane’s altitude and route apparently overloaded a computer system called ERAM, which generates display data for air-traffic controllers. Back-up computer systems also failed.

As a result, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had to stop accepting flights into airspace managed by the L.A. Center, issuing a nationwide ground stop that lasted for about an hour and affected thousands of passengers.

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There were also delays at the airports in Burbank, Long Beach, Ontario and Orange County and at other airports across the Southwestern U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraft; airliners; aviation; u2
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1 posted on 05/03/2014 1:15:20 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

oops, ny bad


2 posted on 05/03/2014 1:16:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: george76
OK, OK, I'm sorry!
3 posted on 05/03/2014 1:18:19 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: george76

“Fry” isn’t the correct word.


4 posted on 05/03/2014 1:18:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: george76
2^15 = 32,768

60,000 - 32,768 = 27,232

If one part of the system is so old that it can only handle 16-bit math and uses one sign bit, then it is limited to numbers between +32767 and -32768.

A reading of 60,000 would have overflowed its bits and registered as something in the range of 27,000 which is around where a typical jet might fly.

I wonder if this might be the cause.

5 posted on 05/03/2014 1:19:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: JPG

I call BS.


6 posted on 05/03/2014 1:19:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: george76

Well at least it won’t affect the game tonight. No one has to fly in.


7 posted on 05/03/2014 1:23:10 PM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat (If I'm going to live in a banana republic it might as well be one with good tropical weather.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Could be! Similar to the Y2K problem.


8 posted on 05/03/2014 1:26:11 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: george76
Why didn't the U2 declare MARSA and leave ATC out of it?

That's what we were taught to do at culinary school.

/johnny

9 posted on 05/03/2014 1:28:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I agree. More than likely, if anything, EMI from the old Hughes RADAR Systems Group (now Raytheon) or Hughes Space and Comm (now Boeing Space Systems) facilities across the street. I used to open up the domes to test my microwave systems after 2AM to avoid EMI from the FAA RADAR across the street at LAX.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 1:28:34 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

+1


11 posted on 05/03/2014 1:29:03 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

If it was a standard Mode C reply to the ATC radar, it looks like they designed it to go to 126,700 ft. in 100 ft. increments.

Now if they had a problem with the D2 bit in the reply, that would happen at 62,800 ft.

http://www.airsport-corp.com/modecascii.txt


12 posted on 05/03/2014 1:30:09 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: JRandomFreeper

...culinary school is just so incredibly comprehensive...

“I graduated from Yale”
Oh? Really?
“Well, probably not the one you are thinking of,
I went to locksmith school.”

My cousin flunked out of dairy science.
He was an utter failure.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 1:32:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Similar to the Y2K problem.

I didn't notice any problem. In fact, not only did my microwave oven continue to function but my watch also successfully changed the date to 1/1/2000 without blowing up my wrist.......

Even my stupid alarm clock went off without a hitch........bummer!

14 posted on 05/03/2014 1:33:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: george76

I think it is more likely to be a programing problem. FAA is well known for bad programing.

The U2 was redesigned with almost 30’ more wingspan to fly even higher. They will be here for a long time.


15 posted on 05/03/2014 1:36:21 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Could be! Similar to the Y2K problem.

Absolutely nothing happened for Y2K. I was so disappointed. I was in a ARTCC basement on overtime and nothing happened.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 1:39:49 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I milked my share of Bovines but don’t you mean “udder”? :-)


17 posted on 05/03/2014 1:40:56 PM PDT by Huskr4Bush
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To: george76

The Iranians, Chicoms and Ruskies will be glad to know about this.


18 posted on 05/03/2014 1:41:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: mountainlion
We had some city water pumps that all switched on at midnight, and blew out 3 main lines. Other than that, it was a boring night. And for that, I am grateful.

/johnny

19 posted on 05/03/2014 1:41:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Repeal The 17th
;)

/johnny

20 posted on 05/03/2014 1:42:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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