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To: Kaslin
Ignoring all intellectual positions, the Governor must know that if in 2004, 59,300 Ohioans had voted for John Kerry instead of George W. Bush, Senator Kerry would have become President despite having lost the national popular vote by over 3 million votes. New York voted overwhelmingly (58%) for Mr. Kerry. If the National Popular Vote Compact had been in place, every New York electoral vote would have gone to President Bush and made him the President of the United States instead of Mr. Kerry.

Something is wrong with this argument. I'm pretty certain that President Bush *did* become president in 2004. Whatever point the author was trying to make here is hopelessly muddy.

3 posted on 05/03/2014 7:00:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

It’s just an argument for getting what they want in spite of the rules of the Electoral vote process. In my mind, a national popular vote would relegate the control of this country to the whims of maybe 20 or 30 highly populated cities and counties (mainly leftists).

Regional rights and legitimate interests would be subsumed to a few areas where targeted government influence could make all others’ needs irrelevant.

Whenever someone says to me “Why should Wyoming have two Senators?” I reply, “Why in the hell should Rhode Island have two?”

On the one hand, the entire spiel of leftists is the richness of “Diversity, inclusion and fairness”. Yet when it comes to engineering a foolproof way to ensure continual power, they bristle at it. They can go screw themselves.


9 posted on 05/03/2014 7:08:54 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: exDemMom
President Bush was reelected in 2004. He was elected in 2000. There is a difference between being elected and being reelected. John who was in Nam Kerry ran for election in 2004 and President Bush for his reelection.

I think you misunderstood the author.

22 posted on 05/03/2014 7:42:14 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: exDemMom
Whatever point the author was trying to make here is hopelessly muddy.

I guess he's trying to say that Cuomo would have wanted Kerry to win even if he got fewer votes and Cuomo's own plan would have prevented this.

I agree with you. It's confusing and a weak argument. Presumably, by proposing the plan, Cuomo would have been okay with Kerry losing the presidency if he got fewer popular votes nationwide.

While the governor may really want Democrats to win, one can't simply assume that this plan is designed purely to ensure Democrat victories.

It may be a very lousy plan but the author's logic looks faulty here (the conditional "would have" grammar may also be confusing).

41 posted on 05/03/2014 11:41:00 AM PDT by x
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To: exDemMom
Muddled argument, but what (I think) that they're trying to say is "My Dear Beloved John Kerry was only 59,000 votes from being President! And if this Compact had been in place, he wouldn't have a chance in Hell of winning, no matter how many recounts we wanted! And WORST OF ALL, NEW YORK would have gone for .... BUSH!!!1!"

At least, that's how I read it.

44 posted on 05/03/2014 12:02:37 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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