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Cliven Bundy, Racism, Politics, and History
PJMedia.com ^ | 4/27/2014 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/28/2014 6:52:34 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman
The federal government owns 86% of the land in Nevada and more than 30% of the land in the USA. that's unconstitutional : http://benswann.com/lofti-who-actually-owns-americas-land-a-deeper-look-at-the-bundy-ranch-crisis/ >

the government this much land in Nevada and other states is socialism/communism. the land must be given to the states and individuals NOW. Nothing is more monstrous to me than government owning land

The gov is using 30% of the U.S. land for environmentalism when private companies could be using those vast resources to get oil, oil shale, logging, farmland etc.. Use Google to see that just on government owned lands in the west there is more recoverable oil than all of the rest of the world combined

21 posted on 04/28/2014 8:26:35 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media

Maintained with govt (our) money. Purty durn sad.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 8:39:32 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Democrat_media
Senator Mike Lee (R--UT) has highlighted another pernicious effect of federal land ownership in Utah (57% federally owned).

The local taxing authorities -- the county, the school boards, etc. -- are screwed.

Lee describes how they have to go -- hat-in-hand -- to the federal agencies (BLM, NPS, USF&W, etc.) and Congressional committees and ask for "equivalent compensation in lieu of taxes".

Alas, it's never "equivalent", it's never on time and it's never reliable from year-to-year.

Lee evidently attends these meetings personally, lending his weight to the County Commissioners and School Boards -- and believes it's a raw deal for both the local taxing authorities and the taxpayers (who are ponying up the compensation from the government agencies).

Not to mention, the land in question could be far better manaqed by the state, county or private owners.

23 posted on 04/28/2014 8:42:10 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Pietro

Pretty much.


24 posted on 04/28/2014 8:47:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rktman

Yes , and the media hides that from Americans, that the gov owns 30% of land in the USA and 86% of Nevada which is socialism


25 posted on 04/28/2014 8:50:16 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: okie01
good points . also as this article proves it is unconstitutional for the federal gov to own this much land :
http://benswann.com/lofti-who-actually-owns-americas-land-a-deeper-look-at-the-bundy-ranch-crisis/

but the media hides this instead it's look at trayvon martin,LOOK the luge at the winter Olymics, LOOK the missing plane etc.. The federal government owns 86% of the land in Nevada and more than 30% of the land in the USA. that's unconstitutional : http://benswann.com/lofti-who-actually-owns-americas-land-a-deeper-look-at-the-bundy-ranch-crisis/

26 posted on 04/28/2014 8:53:35 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Pietro
There was a time when such men were considered the backbone of this country, now they're treated like rubes and racists.

The dirty little secret about Bundy's remarks, that the Manhattan media elite don't realize, is that a lot (perhaps a majority) of everyday normal people in this country agree with his remarks.

They know exactly what he's talking about when he rails against half a dozen people sitting on the front porch living off "government subsidy."

27 posted on 04/28/2014 9:01:27 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: TennesseeGirl

Video and transcript of remarks that have been talked about.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/04/24/cliven-bundy-controversial-remarks-full-context-video-with-transcript/


28 posted on 04/28/2014 9:03:22 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Thank you!


29 posted on 04/28/2014 9:04:55 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl (Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. - Edmund Burke 1790)
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To: TennesseeGirl
I've apparently missed the exact quotation of what Bundy said...

When you find it, please also verify whether you are getting the full unexcerpted version or if you are getting the NYT/Media Matters carefully edited version.

30 posted on 04/28/2014 9:34:22 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: rktman; alloysteel

Thanks for reminding me. I saw Code of the West years ago and wanted to buy a poster to put up at work. Having grown up out west and having known a number of real cowboys I understood immediately. A Code of behavior that exceeds what is legal. Like Christianity. Also these virtues were acted out in all the TV shows with Gene Autry , Roy Rogers, et. Al. We learned these virtues as children if you are my age. I kinda feel sorry for younger folks.


31 posted on 04/28/2014 9:50:36 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Logical me

You’re right, of course.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 11:27:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: rktman

One more half-stepping bullshit conservative proudly walks out on the stage and steps on his pecker.


33 posted on 04/28/2014 12:06:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
They know exactly what he's talking about when he rails against half a dozen people sitting on the front porch living off "government subsidy."

He wasn't even railing about the people who are on welfare he was railing about the government for handing it out. The FedMob is like a pedophile who drives around in a van passing candy out to children to gain their confidence. That is what he was talking about.

34 posted on 04/28/2014 12:13:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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Man, I’m hoping McDonalds has a contingency plan. LOL!

I have a Winchester contingency.

35 posted on 04/28/2014 12:21:22 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: VRWCmember

Deport sent out a link (post 28): http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/04/24/cliven-bundy-controversial-remarks-full-context-video-with-transcript/


36 posted on 04/29/2014 7:10:29 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl (Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. - Edmund Burke 1790)
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