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U.S. troops arrive in Lithuania amid Ukraine tensions
Reuters ^ | 4/26/2014 | Reuters

Posted on 04/26/2014 7:49:38 AM PDT by lodi90

(Reuters) - The United States deployed 150 paratroopers to Lithuania on Saturday, part of efforts by Washington to reassure its eastern European allies, worried by events in Ukraine, that NATO would offer protection if they face Russian aggression.

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KEYWORDS: baltic; baltics; lithuania; russia; ukraine
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U. S. Army airborne deploying to a former USSR country for 7 months.
1 posted on 04/26/2014 7:49:38 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I just don’t see anything good coming out of this. On the positive side....as miserable as guys were in Iraq and Afghanistan....Lithuania will be paradise, which invites trouble via alcohol and hookers.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:54 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: lodi90

Exactly how “reassuring” are 150 paratroopers?

Also have a really hard time imagining Americans accepting a huge war over a country such as Lithuania, NATO or no.


3 posted on 04/26/2014 8:17:44 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: lodi90

For the moment, Lithuania is on the free side of the ledger. One way or another, that is likely to change drastically. Also immediately endangered are temporarily free countries: Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Moldova, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, etc. For our part, we will continue the dismantling of our military while giving lip service to international leadership. Reagan’s freedom through strength concept is long gone.


4 posted on 04/26/2014 8:23:18 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: PaulCruz2016

Sure not very reassuring to the paratroopers or anyone else with a brain.

Under just what rule of law are these troops being sent? The general premise of NATO?


5 posted on 04/26/2014 8:28:15 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: lodi90

Lithuania welcomes our homosexual forces, no doubt.


6 posted on 04/26/2014 8:29:31 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Lithuanians in general don’t care for gays.

Any gay US soldiers that think they can flaunt their newly won rights to engage in sodomy will likely get their ass kicked over there.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 8:33:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PaulCruz2016

The 173rd is setting up shop in Poland and the former USSR. It’s airborne companies rotating on a monthly basis for the rest of the year.

This isn’t way more than a show the flag op. The 173rd is the NATO QRF that would be deployed if Putin’s no insignia fag army shows up in the Baltics


8 posted on 04/26/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
I guess we have to stand by Lithuania since they are a member of NATO, but the hell with Ukraine. They wanted be part of the EU. Let the EU take care of Ukraine's defense.
9 posted on 04/26/2014 8:45:42 AM PDT by McGruff (Clinton had his Kosovo, Obama has his Ukraine.)
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To: onedoug
Lithuania welcomes our homosexual forces, no doubt.

It's entirely possible that the Lithuanians admire and respect our troops more than you do.

10 posted on 04/26/2014 9:07:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: onedoug
Lithuania welcomes our homosexual forces, no doubt.

I'm of Lithuanian descent, both sides of my family. My dad and uncles fought in WWII. I'm a Vietnam Era USAF veteran. It was Lithuania that led the fight for independence for the Baltic States from the Soviet Union. They're tough, unconventional fighters, as was proven and Afghanistan fighting the Taliban, who feared the Lituanians. In the days of old, Lithuanians fought a "berserker" style of warfare and were much feared and respected. Don't underestimate and besmirch Lithuanians!

11 posted on 04/26/2014 9:12:55 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: lodi90
A 150 troops-- the worst of all possible courses of action, as it combines a show of utter weakness with the real possibility of war.

Something only the idiot Obama administration would do.

12 posted on 04/26/2014 9:13:55 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Sequoyah101
What are you talking about? There's no question of law regarding where US troops can be ordered to go abroad-- Jefferson ordered action against the Barbary Pirates without any Congressional authorization.

As much as I despise that criminal Obama, I still respect the office and its legitimate powers.

13 posted on 04/26/2014 9:16:59 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: rochester_veteran

A lot of people don’t realize this, but Kosciuszko identified himself as a Lithuanian.

A great tragedy was the fall of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.


14 posted on 04/26/2014 9:17:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lodi90

Two guys who played football with my son in HS have been or are currently in the 173rd. One friend was in Chosin Battalion and saw combat in Afghanistan. He’s currently in college and in Army ROTC and will get his commission in two years. The other friend is currently on active duty with the 173rd and could very well be a part of this deployment to the Baltic States.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 9:19:08 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Sorry. I should have used the term “homosexualist”.

In current terms, that may be true.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 9:19:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: lodi90

Wait for the fallout. When these troops get involved with the locals and get in trouble. They will be asked to leave. Its the nature of the beast.


17 posted on 04/26/2014 9:19:36 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: rochester_veteran

I can’t imagine that Putin would want to invade Lithuania. What is the point of sending our paratroopers there? If the US attacked Ukraine from there, couldn’t it get Lithuania sucked into a war? Besides that, every single “spontaneious uprising” for freedom has been engineered by US/globalist/banker interests. Why would Lithuania want to risk such inspiration there?


18 posted on 04/26/2014 9:23:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: onedoug

I figured that’s what you meant. But let’s be careful out there. :)


19 posted on 04/26/2014 9:26:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: grania
The last Lithuanian revolution against the Soviets was led by a professor of music history and consisted of unarmed citizens with candles. So take that "US/globalist/banker" bullcrap elsewhere.
20 posted on 04/26/2014 9:29:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: onedoug

Lithuania welcomes our homosexual forces, no doubt.


Member of the church of Fred Phelps are you?


21 posted on 04/26/2014 9:44:05 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: onedoug

When was the last time you were around any American service members? If you were lately, you’d know that even now the numbers that are homos is not many. Unless you’re an attendee of Westboro Baptist Church, keep in mind that most people serving in our military are patriots. If you cannot handle that, then God help your ignorance.


22 posted on 04/26/2014 9:49:07 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: chessplayer

I could not and would not take the oath to obey the orders of the current supposed CIC. Take that as you will.

Army 0 Navy 1, top of the 4th.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 9:52:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: grania

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia taken together would connect the small part of Russia just south west of Lithuania and north of Poland - currently isolated from the Motherland.

Also Russia would gain more ports to operate out of.

Like the Ukraine taken as a whole gives Russia many closed mil bases, a warm water port (the Crimea).

Unmentioned as yet is Russia taking Kazakhstan to gain free access to the Baikonur Cosmodrome were all Russian manned missions are launched from as well as were its future plans to colonize the Moon will begin.


24 posted on 04/26/2014 9:54:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Unmentioned as yet is Russia taking Kazakhstan to gain free access to the Baikonur Cosmodrome were all Russian manned missions are launched from as well as were its future plans to colonize the Moon will begin.

Does Borat know about this?

25 posted on 04/26/2014 9:55:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pepsionice

Babes of the Baltic are smoking hot!


26 posted on 04/26/2014 9:55:54 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: onedoug

‘’homosexual forces’’ WTF!?! What are you, Westboro Baptist alumni?


27 posted on 04/26/2014 9:57:28 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: onedoug
Lithuania welcomes our homosexual forces, no doubt.

Sigh....give me a fu**ing break.

28 posted on 04/26/2014 9:58:18 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m agreeing with you! The Lithuanians don’t need the US to defend them, and by troops being there they risk being dragged into someone else’s fight. Lithuania can take care of itself. It never lost its identity as a nation or a people, even when under the rule of others.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 10:04:31 AM PDT by grania
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To: PIF

So now we should support US war-mongering so Russia won’t colonize the moon?


30 posted on 04/26/2014 10:06:14 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
The Lithuanians want the US forces there. And as observed above, it's a nice posting for troops. Although the NATO F-16 jockeys learned right away that the pretty girl at the bar inviting them home comes with three burly men with lead pipes.
31 posted on 04/26/2014 10:11:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: grania

Putin wants to change the current world order. Discrediting NATO and with that the other alliances USA has would be a step toward it. Nothing is happening in the next few years in Lithuania and I think the place where he tries to challenge NATO is going to be Latvia. It is the weakest of the Baltic states and with the highest number of leftover sovok illegal immigrants.

Looks like the current escalation came too soon for him and he did not want to reveal himself just yet. He was perfectly happy with his corrupt puppet Yanukovych in power in Ukraine filling his pockets and weakening Ukrainian state. When Ukrainian people took his puppet down he had to act at the time not comfortable for him as he just can’t have Ukrainian people depose their dictator and come out better off as he might very well be next.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 10:12:46 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: pierrem15

Your premise seems a bit of a stretch. The Barbary Pirates were a clear and direct threat to the well being of citizens of this country who had rights of free passage and to the vital commercial interests of this nation. I question that the same can be said for The Ukraine where the issue is really more one of Civil War though Russia would like to dictate the winner and the people have already spoken in favor of that winner by election of a pro-Russia president that has been ousted.

I said NATO as the commitment authority didn’t I?

The question is really about intent and outcome though. Can he expand the NATO commitment to combat without consent from Congress? It seems so. This isn’t the same as sending troops to chase a bunch of insurgents around central africa.

Do you think that the next step of engaging limited numbers of troops in what would almost surely be a fatal or large and escalating action is part of “legitimate powers”. It sounds more like irresponsible reckless folly to me. Not all things that are permissible are the right thing to do are they?

Have a nice day.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 10:15:12 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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the people have already spoken in favor of that winner by election of a pro-Russia president that has been ousted

That in not accurate. While Yanukovich was elected rather fairly he was elected into a different position as by 2004 constitutional President did not have much power. The amendment was passed after the Orange revolution and 90% of the legislators voted for it. He managed to use his limited power together with corrupt judges to overturn the constitution claiming there had been procedural errors 6 years ago and started to use the old 1996 constitution, that gave him very large powers.

It began to became clear that he is consolidating his power and there might be no more fair elections ever.

He was also impeached by legal parliament, who had given up on him. Also the 2004 constitution was restored. And new elections were scheduled. Russia tries to paint it as a coup and the new government a junta, but it might be the first time when the first decision of a junta is scheduling early elections.

34 posted on 04/26/2014 10:29:21 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: pierrem15
Jefferson ordered more frigates (Legislation for the frigates drafted before he even became President) into the Mediterranean (For defensive means) and that was it. Jefferson waited, Congressional approval to "offensively" act and got that approval in February 6, 1802 when Congress passed the Act for Protection of Commerce and Seamen of the United States Against Tripolitan Corsairs.

Then Jefferson signed this:


35 posted on 04/26/2014 10:43:54 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

yeah..weak!


36 posted on 04/26/2014 10:46:13 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: onedoug

I could not and would not take the oath to obey the orders of the current supposed CIC. Take that as you will.


What has that got to do with you calling the troops being sent to Lithuania homosexual sodomites?


37 posted on 04/26/2014 11:03:57 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: dfwgator; grania
dfwgator posted: A lot of people don’t realize this, but Kosciuszko identified himself as a Lithuanian.

Good to hear from you again, dfwgator! How have you been? I didn't know that Kosciuszko identified himself as Lithuanian. Thanks for filling us in!

grania posted: every single “spontaneious uprising” for freedom has been engineered by US/globalist/banker interests

Not in Lithuania, it was a grass roots uprising. Here in Rochester, NY, there was a Lithuanian-American young man who did a walk across Lithuania for a fundraiser for the uprising. Many Lithuanian-Americans, including myself, donated to the cause.

38 posted on 04/26/2014 11:07:23 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: rochester_veteran
That's why I'm saying Lithuania is better off NOT having US troops there. They did it without our "help".

If they're welcoming US troops, I'm wondering if it's the people or the leaders who want to get involved in the Globalism game.

I have total respect for people of Lithuanisn ancestry I've met. I don't have much respect at all for the mischief US interference has created in globalist ventures.

39 posted on 04/26/2014 11:11:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: rochester_veteran

Pilsudski was also Lithuanian.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 11:14:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: grania
I have relatives in Lithuania...took me a long time to find these relatives, and I worry greatly for them. One of my Lithuanian relatives was a freedom fighter for Lithuania in WWII. He refused to join Stalin's Red Army when they marched into Lithuania, as the Nazi's were running out of Lithuania. The soviet soldiers rounded up all the freedom fighters who wouldn't fight with the soviets and shot them in front of their families. They then desecrated their bodies. After the war ended, the townspeople dug up the remains of these brave fighters and buried them in a common grave, with a headstone listing all of their names. I have a picture of that headstone.
41 posted on 04/26/2014 11:22:42 AM PDT by itssme
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To: dfwgator
Pilsudski was also Lithuanian.

Pilsudski also had a great 'stache:

:-)

42 posted on 04/26/2014 12:26:02 PM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: lodi90

150 guys won’t be able to defend against a massive Soviet tank attack. We have taken hundreds of thousands of troops out of Europe, Germany, etc. since the First Gulf War. We no longer are on the border’s to defend the Fulda Gap. The Soviets now have a short trip across the borders and no massive US Army tanks, troops and US Air Force fighters to defend Western Europe from a Soviet attack. The Cold War ended and we came home. The Soviets have built back up. All that gas and oil money is giving Czar Putin plenty of cash to build back up his military. Russia and the Red Chinese are building up and Czar Obama is cutting US forces back to pre-WWII levels. That means there is no way we have the forces to stop either of them from doing what they want to do.


43 posted on 04/26/2014 1:02:52 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: JimSEA

Yep, and now you even see FReepers heralding this ‘improvement’. Honest to -—, this is a particularly unraveling moment across the board.

Folks will find out what an impotent United States garners the world. It won’t be pretty, but at least some of them will be alive to say I’m sorry.

Tens of millions won’t be.


44 posted on 04/26/2014 1:18:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: RetiredArmy

That’s right, and I am amazed at the people who fail to see what this is going to garner us. I never thought I’d live to see the day when good people would exhibit this level of stupidity.


45 posted on 04/26/2014 1:20:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: rochester_veteran

I recall the Latvian and Lithuanian Labor Service guys in Germany back in the 60..

They were older fellows, some in their 50’s, who told us kids hair raising stories about their adventures on the Ostfront while in German service.


46 posted on 04/26/2014 1:37:21 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: DoughtyOne

Between here and other sites like Brietbart’s, I have to come to the conclusion that the allure of a “religious” strongman is too much of an attraction. The are a good number of folks that believe the Constitution has been changed and manipulated beyond repair and that there is a need for an autocratic leader who will punish all the traitors and deviants.

I don’t like that at all. A dictator always leaves destruction and chaos if overthrown. By definition he is autocratic and not to be disagreed with. I won’t submit to an autocracy by Obama or a Putin - lite.

Peace through strength - Reagan.


47 posted on 04/26/2014 1:37:48 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I agree with your take JimSEA.

When a supposed Christian does what Putin is doing, he is not living within God’s word. Putin is a fraud.

Notice how he doubled the price of gas to his adored Russian speaking Ukrainians. What a two face liar the guy is.


48 posted on 04/26/2014 1:49:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Krosan

Exactly. It is not our monkey. We don’t know enough about it to intervene one way or another.


49 posted on 04/26/2014 1:50:31 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep, unlike Muslims, observant Christians don’t threaten to kill everyone who has a different version of Christianity or other faith. Christianity went through several centuries of that but have seen faith wars for the insanity they are.


50 posted on 04/26/2014 1:58:41 PM PDT by JimSEA
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