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'“It’s similar to the military,” Shaw said regarding the rules of engagement. “We don’t fire unless fired upon. We’re not here to provoke anything. We’re just there to make sure the government doesn’t over-reach and that the government doesn’t overstep their bounds.” Shaw detailed the incidents at Waco and Ruby Ridge as precedents where the government took what many believe to be improper actions that led to the unnecessary deaths of American citizens.'
1 posted on 04/25/2014 2:43:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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If the S truly HTF, I’m on the road in thirty minutes or less.

And I'm not coming alone.

77 posted on 04/25/2014 5:53:41 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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While I’m generally sympathetic to their cause, standing up to the .gov in a straight-up ‘battle’ is little more than a loud symbolic suicide. If they’re determined to go that route, they would be well served to read up on insurgency efforts.


84 posted on 04/25/2014 6:52:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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He says they won’t fire unless fired upon. If Reid was to show up it would be very difficult not to change the ROE.


86 posted on 04/25/2014 7:09:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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>>the government took what many believe to be improper actions that led to the unnecessary deaths of American citizens.<<

All those agents, officers, public officials have the blood of lil children and woman on their hands from Waco/Ruby Ridge.

We should never allow this to happen again...never.

89 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:35 PM PDT by servantboy777
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I am of the opinion that beyond these statements made by these “militia” types are fine, to a point...

I believe the government understands our position, therefore it is un-necessary to re-iterate our capabilities publically anymore...

Giving the media “more” info our your weaponry only invites negative public opinion from the ignorant, low-information voters, who could care less beyond the 30 second sound bite...

I would not advertise where your line in the sand is to these entities, it gives them too much wiggle room to exploit, and use against forces we might very well be a part of in the future...

Keeping them doubtful of their survival in the future, when they are told to deploy, is a powerful weapon in and of itself...

Spouting off like this to the media is like shooting and taking lives first...No one will win the court of public opinion if you are the one to shoot first...And if the general public is to be on our side, sympathy will have to be the emotion that turns in our favor with the public that does not engage these issues like we do, or would do...

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for resisting...I can hold my own...

With the times the way they are, our side will unfortunately have to take the first bloody nose in ANY violent incident...

Then the gloves will certainly come off at that point...

Your government is hedging its bets that we do not have the courage to take it to that point...That will be a very serious under-estimation on their part...

I would caution folks to be very cool about their intentions, capabilities, resolve, “what you got” inventory, and be very careful about this on a public forum...

Jim knows this as well as I and many others do, not every FReeper (participant) is on our side on this website...

If the times are getting very tenuous, volatile, then maybe its time to be cool, be very reserved about those things I mentioned above, and always keep in mind that we are all being watched above and beyond what you might think the government is capable of doing...

As much as they say they will not fire, unless fired upon...That is the standard line of BS, we’ve heard for years...They are already provoking the citizens of this country...Those of us here who pay attention, and do not live or die by everything they see coming from any one source of information...

We got to be cooler than they are...Let them be the ones to screw up first, before we respond in kind...

We are better people than the ones driving this situation to the brink, and we will ALWAYS have the last word, or something more tangible, with considerable weight, and velocity...;-)


126 posted on 04/26/2014 1:37:33 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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Why no due process for Bundy, only BLM executive “execution?”

Sounds like Bundy’s rights of due process have been disregarded, since this is a court based proceeding.

Execution of federal court orders is generally in the hands of US Marshals, or local County Sheriffs.Why was due process not observed?


133 posted on 04/26/2014 9:00:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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No more massacres of patriotic USAiasn.


142 posted on 04/27/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by veracious
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They also include precision shooting firearms like deer hunting rifles

haha....exactly like deer hunting rifles. I guess it's a bad thing to have any kind of firearm that can hit its intended target with any degree of certainty.

144 posted on 04/27/2014 1:03:14 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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two words for ya Waco Texas.


148 posted on 04/27/2014 4:46:05 PM PDT by losinmyreligion
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bmfl


168 posted on 04/29/2014 3:25:18 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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Post #96 link to Waco


173 posted on 03/26/2017 6:04:13 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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