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I believe this will be fighting words to a lot of Texans.

God bless Texas.

1 posted on 04/25/2014 11:04:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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That doesn’t seem to be what the State of Texas thinks. So maybe the BLM had better double check their facts?


39 posted on 04/25/2014 11:45:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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This case is different than Bundy, and the BLM has less standing.

Of course, they will escalte it. Expect more mercs this time.


40 posted on 04/25/2014 11:46:33 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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IIRC, the Feds can only own such lands as are defined in the Constitution. The Feds are merely the stewards of other such lands as the public entrusts to them.

PS IIRC, that stewardship is revocable subject to management success/failure.


41 posted on 04/25/2014 11:46:43 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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Too late, Mr. BLM guy. This acreage was patented a long time ago. Severed from the sovereign. It's in private hands, now and forever. If you wished to purchase this acreage, however, I'm sure it could become available at the right price.

Then again...you're $17.2 trillion in debt. You are representing the world's largest aggregation of spendthrift deadbeats. In view thereof, it appears that you probably can't afford this acquisition.

Which brings us to another thought...perhaps you should delay any future acquisitions until you are able to sort out your issues on lands out west, which, in contrast to this Red River acreage, is actually land still in the public domain. As you have amply demonstrated, your agency is having great difficulty managing the lands you actually do own. It would be best, one would think, if you were to learn how to manage the stuff already in your portfolio before acquiring somebody else's acreage.
43 posted on 04/25/2014 11:47:41 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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Whatever land the BLM does in fact own needs to be sold back to the states or the people unless BLM can prove it has a Constitutional and compelling the need for the land. The compelling need must be within Constitutionally delegated powers to the feds and must override a strong presumption in favor of state and private ownership of land.

Obama continues to test the will and resolve of the states and the American people. In Marxist fashion, he's much more aggressive against the citizens of his own country than he is any foreign aggressor. Among other things, he wants to implement the U.N Agenda 21 here. As far as I'm concerned, that's treasonous as it surrenders U.S. sovereignty to a foreign power. I hope he meets his match in Texas as well as Nevada.

44 posted on 04/25/2014 11:47:55 AM PDT by PapaNew
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Ping.


46 posted on 04/25/2014 11:51:17 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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There are only two ways by which the US Government is able to obtain land. Article II section 2 treaty with another country and Article I section 8 with the approval of the state legislature.

This does not appear to qualify for either.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 11:56:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Take it right back and dare them to come after it.


53 posted on 04/25/2014 12:04:16 PM PDT by nomad
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We should just start calling them BM for short.


57 posted on 04/25/2014 12:13:32 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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Expect the BLM to continue to claim they own land whether they do or not. It is the only way they can continue to enlarge obama’s control


66 posted on 04/25/2014 12:27:30 PM PDT by Nifster
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who’s the slave of who, now?


70 posted on 04/25/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by dadfly
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“It’s not the BLM making any such claim as to the status of the land,” McGuire said. “That land was a matter that the courts adjudicated decades ago, going back to the 1920s in fact. The Supreme Court settled the matter as to where the public land in the Red River was. So, BLM is really just proceeding on those earlier court decisions.”

MULEY
You mean get off my own land?

THE MAN
Now don't go blaming me. It ain't
*my* fault.

SON
Whose fault is it?

THE MAN
You know who owns the land—the
Shawnee Land and Cattle Company.

MULEY
Who's the Shawnee Land and Cattle
Comp’ny?

THE MAN
It ain't nobody. It's a company.

SON
They got a pres’dent, ain't they?
They got somebody that knows what a
shotgun's for, ain't they?

THE MAN
But it ain't *his* fault, because
the *bank* tells him what to do.

SON
(angrily)
All right. Where's the bank?

THE MAN
(fretfully)
Tulsa. But what's the use of picking
on him? He ain't anything but the
manager, and half crazy hisself,
trying to keep up with his orders
from the east!

MULEY
(bewildered)
Then who *do* we shoot?

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/grapes_of_wrath.html

74 posted on 04/25/2014 12:49:21 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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The U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Oklahoma Field Office responded ...

Why are unelected government bureaucrats who have no concern that this is an election year responding to property owner voters concerning issue?

And what's arguably worse is why are citizens willing to talk with unelected officials instead of their elected lawmakers where their property, or any issue, is concerned?

... The Bureau claims it is not they who are declaring the ownership but that settled case law long declared it to be government land.

Property owners need to demand that their federal representatives prove that the land in question was purchased by the feds with the consent of state lawmakers in compliance with the Constitution's Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article, or purchased in compliance with the 5th Amendment's Eminent Domain Clause - or get out of Dodge.

78 posted on 04/25/2014 1:01:37 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Last time I checked, it was WE THE PEOPLE that paid the salaries for BLM, and anything that they “purchased” with those funds, ummm , BELONGS to WE THE PEOPLE.

Just sayin’...


81 posted on 04/25/2014 1:07:19 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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88 posted on 04/25/2014 1:43:43 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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I pray that the hired guns realize that pulling a trigger for a political organization is a lot different than pulling one for the military.


89 posted on 04/25/2014 1:44:05 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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I thought the dispute was taken to Congress which settled it in favor of the two states involved.


90 posted on 04/25/2014 1:44:44 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Bunch of Washington pinheads talking to each other inside a closed room in a DC building, unaware that the rug is about to be pulled out from under them in Texas 1500 miles away.


91 posted on 04/25/2014 1:53:25 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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Has anyone posted the interview with Jerry Patterson???

I would love to have been a fly on the wall for that one...

I know there had to be some colorful metaphors slung out there in response to the BLM edict...

BTW, I still believe we need to consider having an impromptu Texas Cowboy Memorial Shoot ready to go if the BLM wishes to engage...

We have plenty of elbow room up near the Red River within logistical range of where they may be targeting their efforts...We can coordinate, rotate our folks, have a place to rest and recuperate...Just no skinny dipping in our lakes back there...It scares the more than ample supply of native turtle species if that occurs...

It ain’t no “Hippy Hollow”!!! ;-)

And at least we’d have a place to meet, stage, and fall back to for many contingencies...

Just an idea...


95 posted on 04/25/2014 2:22:14 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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Thanks for the ping BUMP!


99 posted on 04/25/2014 2:55:43 PM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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