Material on Australian shore examined in jet hunt

AP via Yahoo ^ | 4/23/2014 | Rod Mcguirk

[logi_cal869]

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) -- Unidentified material that washed ashore in southwestern Australia and is being examined for any link to the lost Malaysian plane is unlikely to have come from the jet, an official said Wednesday.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau was scrutinizing photos of the object, which washed ashore 10 kilometers (6 miles) east of Augusta in Western Australia state. But Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the safety bureau, said an initial analysis of the material — which appeared to be sheet metal with rivets — suggested it was not from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

"We do not consider this likely to be of use to our search for MH370," Dolan told The Associated Press. "At this stage, we are not getting excited."

[logi_cal869]

I'm dubious. But I've stated prior that the irony here is that IF the plane went down in the southern Indian Ocean there would be debris and eventually currents would wash it ashore back in Malaysia in weeks.

Should prove interesting if not more 'theater'...

[yldstrk]

wtf does “material” mean? And why are they examining photos instead of the “material”? And where are the photos?

[Iron Munro]

People behind the MH-870 disappearance who want the world to believe the aircraft went down in the southern Pacific keep planting phony evidence.

But the searchers keep not finding it.

[norwaypinesavage]

It seems to me that if the plane actually landed somewhere, the hijackers would be wise to dump a few of the seat cushions in scattered places around the Indian Ocean. Now, if I can figure this out, ya’ think maybe they could, too?

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks logi_cal869, but it sez right in the excerpt that it’s not from the plane.

Here’s some more food for thought:

> Since 2009, reports have surfaced of communications specialists and engineers disappearing across the country. In one of the first known cases, nine Nextel technicians were kidnapped from a hotel in Nuevo Laredo. The men had planned to work in the area for several months expanding the company’s spotty radio coverage, said Amalia Armenta, the wife of one of the victims. On June 20, she says, they were taken in the middle of the night by armed gunmen. None of them has been located. At least 27 other engineers and specialists from companies like IBM, ICA Fluor Daniel, and Mexico’s state-run oil company Pemex have also since disappeared. Even without their chief radio architect, the Zetas were not going to give up one of their prized assets easily.

Radio Tecnico: How The Zetas Cartel Took Over Mexico With Walkie-Talkies
http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/radio-tecnico-how-zetas-cartel-took-over-mexico-walkie-talkies

[SunkenCiv]

You’d think that if someone had hijacked the plane, and don’t really care whether anyone ever finds it or not, that they wouldn’t bother to throw some seat cushions into the water.

[Lower Deck]

...IF the plane went down in the southern Indian Ocean there would be debris and eventually currents would wash it ashore back in Malaysia in weeks.

The wreckage would have to get past Sumatra and Java first. Actually if it doesn't wash ashore in Australia then the next most likely land fall is Madigascar. The West Autralia current would take it up to the South Equatorial current and then over to Africa and the Mozambique current.

[Iron Munro]

It seems to me that if the plane actually landed somewhere, the hijackers would be wise to dump a few of the seat cushions in scattered places around the Indian Ocean.
Now, if I can figure this out, ya’ think maybe they could, too?

If the perps want the planted evidence to be found it looks like they will have to put a tag on the cushions saying "Seat Cushion From MH-870" and actually plant them in the Captain's stateroom on the search ships.

[Uncle Chip]

Meanwhile:

Johnston said more powerful towed side-scan commercial sonar equipment would probably be deployed, similar to the remote-controlled subs that found RMS Titanic 3,800 meters (12,500 feet) under the Atlantic Ocean in 1985 and the Australian WWII wreck HMAS Sydney in the Indian Ocean off the Australian coast, north of the current search area, in 2008.

"The next phase, I think, is that we step up with potentially a more powerful, more capable side-scan sonar to do deeper water," Johnston told the AP.

Reports of the death of the search in the Indian Ocean have been greatly exaggerated.

[logi_cal869]

I saw that. My point is, as others have noted, ‘more distraction’...I’m dubious of the intent. I’m reading more a media campaign of disinformation & misdirection than a desire to solve the problem.

I go back to the missing follow ups on the FBI supposedly recovering deleted data on the pilot’s hard drive...(where’s the beef?)

[SunkenCiv]

Nothing suspicious was found in the deleted files. I’m about to dump my browser cache, and I save and delete files every day. They were doing their due diligence and investigating the leads that could be investigated.

If there’s any misdirection going on, it is to conceal that the plane was shot down. That’s what fits the evidence including the wild goose chases of the aftermath.

Otherwise, it’s just gross incompetence. The plane went down within minutes of its last voice comm. There was just one residual signal (the one allegedly traced by doppler method), which vanished when its originating circuitry slipped beneath the waves.

[logi_cal869]

If there’s any misdirection going on, it is to conceal that the plane was shot down.

I've avoided writing that, instead using 'deja vu'...a very good point.

I guess I missed that they finalized the hard drive analysis; another dead end...almost cliche'.

However, your comment

There was just one residual signal (the one allegedly traced by doppler method), which vanished when its originating circuitry slipped beneath the waves.

is incorrect, unless you're asserting they fabricated the signal 'data' to fit a narrative. That radically expands the scope of 'conspiracy'. Until they release the raw data for peer analysis (and alternative algorithms), I can't argue with that (save for the complexity of a multi-national conspiracy).