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UKRAINE: How should the West help us- the EU, NATO, USA, Canada?
Tsenzor.NET ^ | 4-21-2014 28 minutes ago | Yuri Butusov, Contributing Editor

Posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:26 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

TRANSLATION: "I am often asked - how should the West help us: the EU, NATO , USA, Canada? If I represented Ukraine in the negotiations and could influence the process, I would say this:

If you want to help us - do not interfere with their money - invest in our own intelligence/ability. If the IMF and the World Bank really want to conduct economic reforms in Ukraine, they will not give us any "Stabilization" loans. Lending money from a rich country - hence encourages corruption and mismanagement. This means instead of bringing order it encourages cutting and theft.

This means giving power to solve budget problems not working with citizens and businesses, but instead by communicating with foreign diplomats. Reforms in Ukraine can only be done now - code: Western financial agencies have closed access to credit from commercial banks when you cannot take a dime anywhere abroad. The truth is that for 23 years all rulers instead of development of the country [Ukraine] and the wise use of its resources, had taken loans on the security of these resources, and ruthlessly/cynically exploited.

Dear Western leaders! We in Ukraine did not want your money. We need standards of the EU, we need your competent experts, we need your training program, we need your military- technical assistance, we need your help in organization of e-government and e-documents, we need help to return to Ukraine our stolen money corruption of billions, we need to build on your standards a modern army, the law enforcement system and the state apparatus, we need a data exchange to import and export goods to our fiscal authorities.

Giving money to Ukraine you buy the loyalty of the elites, but that you and weaken society's ability to control these elites. Help us - and not buy us off. Give us a chance."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreignaid; ukraine

1 posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:26 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukraine is not my problem. The pro Russian citizens elected the President!! Then these terrorists overthrew him. To hell with that . They are terrorists!! Putin is an actual MAN. Obama is a thing!.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 6:26:18 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Remove Obama and Biden and replace them with real leaders.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:30:35 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: kaehurowing

That’s the only thing I’m willing to do.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:31:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The folks at USUBC have been providing all kinds of guidance and expertise since 1995.

Their website shows their Ukraine contact info as:

Ludmyla Dudnyk
Program Director
U.S.-Ukraine Business Council (USUBC)
4-A Baseyna St.
Mandarin Plaza, 8th Floor
Kyiv 01004 Ukraine
Tel. +38 (050) 358 2681
ldudnyk (at) usubc.org

This is their website:

http://www.usubc.org


5 posted on 04/21/2014 7:08:11 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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6 posted on 04/21/2014 7:08:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Message to Ukraine: Western bureaucrats are as corrupt as your own bureaucrats & just as incompetent. They can only teach your bureaucrats how to steal, lie, & cheat more efficiently.

If you know the difference between right & wrong you are all you need to make a better country. Find other Ukrainians who share your morality & build from there. Don’t compromise away your principles.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 7:32:02 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The hell with Ukraine. WE need someone to help save us from a communist.


8 posted on 04/21/2014 8:06:52 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Reading through the beginning of this article I started to think there are some sane people in Ukraine, but the rest about seeking EU expertise on how to run a state apparatus and advise on fiscal policies has ruined that impression for good.

It is a non-state and it has to be divided between Poland and Russia.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 9:04:01 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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Goodness! Is that a photoshop?


10 posted on 04/21/2014 9:09:53 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: wetphoenix

All they are asking for is to set up expertise to set up their internal structure. These people are not ignorant just without expertise to modernize.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 4:10:00 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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“In the last four years, the former president, together with the Russian supporters…dismantled Ukrainian military and security forces,” Yatsenyuk said. “We need to be in a very good shape in order to stop Russia. And for this shape we need to get real support from our western partners.”

- See more at: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/04/20/Ukrainian-PM-We-Can-t-Stop-Russia-Alone#sthash.lfp6KQEs.dpuf


12 posted on 04/22/2014 4:24:09 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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~All they are asking for is to set up expertise to set up their internal structure. These people are not ignorant just without expertise to modernize.~

In short we have puppets who want to put their strings into someone’s hands.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 4:25:52 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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