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Civilian Militia Remains at Bundy Ranch After Standoff Ends
ABC News ^ | April 19, 2014 | By Liz Fields

Posted on 04/20/2014 12:15:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

A group of armed militia and protesters, some sporting nametags reading "domestic terrorist," remain camped out on a cattle ranch in Nevada, where they have been purportedly defending the property since a tense showdown ended with the federal government last week.

A 20-year struggle between rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management over decades of alleged illegal cattle grazing on public land ended last Sunday, with the government backing down from a controversial week-long cattle round-up.

The BLM defused the standoff, citing safety concerns for its employees and the protesters, some of whom were on horseback and others who were set up in sniper positions on the Interstate 15 overpass pointing military-style rifles at federal agents. Among the citizen army were dozens of women and children under the overpass who could have been caught in the line of any possible gunfire.

But many people who say they support Bundy said they felt the battle was far from over, as evidenced by some responses ABC News received on social media, after the BLM first announced on April 12 that it was withdrawing from the area and releasing the 380 cattle already collected as part of the round-up on an area of land half the size of Delaware state.

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"There are people out here who will sacrifice their lives and their fortunes and their sacred honor to defend them," said Jerry DeLemus from New Hampshire. "If someone points a gun at me, I'll definitely point my gun back."

The dispute has reignited debate over BLM practices, especially where it controls vast areas of land in the West. The issue of states' rights has long been disputed in Nevada, where more than 85 percent of land is controlled by federal mark, military and land agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Oklahoma; US: Oregon; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; blm; bundy; bundyranch; co; govtabuse; militia; nevada; ok; publicland; statesrights; tx; tyranny; wy
"People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power," Bundy's wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News.
1 posted on 04/20/2014 12:15:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

They better stay there forever. It ain’t over. I knew it as soon as they pulled out. It ain’t over. Just a diversionary tactic.


2 posted on 04/20/2014 12:16:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jim Robinson

How many “turtles” and Cattle did the BLM kill?


3 posted on 04/20/2014 12:16:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Robinson

My kind of Americans, up off the couch and into action.

May God keep unity amongst the Patriots, May God Bless their efforts.


4 posted on 04/20/2014 12:16:58 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting this.


5 posted on 04/20/2014 12:17:05 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Jim Robinson

Grazing fees.....$1,000,000 for some greasewood bushes and dry grass. I think those grazing fees were uncalled for. The fees were supposed to be used for the benefit of the ranchers, maintaining roads, water wells etc. Apparently that stopped many decades ago and the federal government just continued collecting fees for what God provides.


6 posted on 04/20/2014 12:19:40 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: chicagolady

Wish we had a “like” button here!


7 posted on 04/20/2014 12:23:23 PM PDT by blu
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To: Jim Robinson

239 years ago, Patriots gathers at Cambridge.


8 posted on 04/20/2014 12:24:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
"People are getting tired of the
federal government having unlimited power,"
Bundy's wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News."


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9 posted on 04/20/2014 12:25:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: blu

LOL!!


10 posted on 04/20/2014 12:25:44 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Jim Robinson

Just like the Bundy Ranch, we could use some REINFORCEMENTS HERE in Chicago This week!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3144274/posts

Chicago, IL – The head of the Illinois Minuteman Project and former Republican candidate for Congress, Rosanna Pulido, announced that her group, along with The Chicago MInutemen Project group and grassroots organizations, is holding a “SAVE THE AMERICAN WORKER RALLY” at 1:00 pm Tuesday, April 22, at the corner of Michigan and Van Buren Streets in downtown Chicago.

Pulido said the rally is being held to protest a gathering of well-heeled Republican politicians, lobbyists, and corporate CEOs pushing amnesty for illegal aliens at the nearby Chicago Club that same afternoon. She commented, “It is outrageous that these fat-cat Republican millionaires and corporate CEOs are lobbying for amnesty to give work visas to tens of millions of illegal aliens, when Chicago-area unemployment is 9 percent and twenty million Americans cannot find a job.”


11 posted on 04/20/2014 12:28:27 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: McGavin999

Wasn’t just the fees. They were also cutting back on the size of herd they were “allowing” him to graze on the land using the (now proven to be not endangered) tortoise as an excuse. And that would have bankrupted him, put him out of business and drove him off his ranch and off the land which was their obvious intent. They did the exact same thing to 50 other ranchers on that range. Bundy is the last rancher standing and is standing up for his constitutional rights against government tyranny.


12 posted on 04/20/2014 12:30:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: McGavin999

Bundy should be charging the BLM for his cattle’s efforts to collect and concentrate food and water to be widely distributed across the desert for the benefit of the indigenous Tortoises.


13 posted on 04/20/2014 12:32:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Robinson; All

“The BLM defused the standoff, citing safety concerns for its employees and the protesters, some of whom were on horseback and others who were set up in sniper positions on the Interstate 15 overpass pointing military-style rifles at federal agents. Among the citizen army were dozens of women and children under the overpass who could have been caught in the line of any possible gunfire.”

How thoughtful of the media (ABC government propagandists) to write about how benevolent and nice the BLM was to diffuse the situation by backing off (for now)...

Seems to me that I never heard about ANY of the “civilians showing up that were preparing to open fire on the BLM and its armed agents when they approached or gathered anywhere near those forces...

I could be wrong, there is a lot of mis-information floating around there on all of this...

But the negative track record still hangs on the necks of your government and its tendency to shoot and kill American citizens and ask questions, or better yet, sweep the truth under the rug afterwards...

Meanwhile (back in Gotham City /sarc) the usual politicians are beginning to come out from cover and voice their outrage at this incident, or near incident, I do not believe they know what to call it yet...(yes, that was /sarc also)...

Namely Rand Paul...(Can’t wait for the usual backlash from those FReepers who live and breath the Paul-Bot mantra)...

I’m not sure that ANYTHING will be learned about this till herr Goober-Miester and his ilk are shown the door after this administration screws the pooch as much as it can in the next year or so...

Nothing official, nothing resolved...Yawn...

Meanwhile (back at the Ponderosa) Hoss, and his buddies are still camped out waiting for the BLM or whatever forces (armed) will come back and finish the job, when things, and the attention span of Joe Q. Citizen is distracted to other things...That is as long as the food and water, and resolve still remain...

I give it a few more weeks, tops...Then the coast will be clear for more government shenanigans...

It may be safer then to conduct operations then...And the government will be prepared to lock the entire area down from ANYONE coming in to reinforce the family out there...

Ruby Ridge ALL OVER AGAIN...The potential is there for that to be the “soup de jour” when the time is right...

I wonder if anyone will figure that one out in time...

Maybe the next Texas Cowboy Memorial Shoot should move out to Clark County Nevada??? I’m just shooting from the hip there, it kinda just came to me...;-)


14 posted on 04/20/2014 12:32:43 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: blu
You just clicked the original like button™. Thanks!
15 posted on 04/20/2014 12:33:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Interesting the trolls that are hitting all the ‘cooments’ sections, everywhere from the Las Vegas newspaper to little newspapers in Lima Ohio.

Makes me wonder where they are situated, what talking points are written on a piece of paper that lays in front of them, where their computers are. These are clearly your $15-an-hour hired trolls.

would be very interesting to have a conservative activist get hired as a leftie troll and report on where they are, who hires them, what kind of people do this, etc. An inside look.

their talking points are mainly
-—greedy rancher wants to use public land for private profit’
-— Bundy wants a free ride on land that belongs to ‘we the people’
-—wish I could get free land,

their talking-points team leader has been leaning heavily on ‘greed’ and ‘free’ and ‘freeloader’. Also a lot of them start out with ‘Wow!’ As in ‘Wow! Wish I could get free grazing for my cows!’

and “Wow! wish I could use public land for FREE!’

They must have a list hung on the wall of every venue that allows comments in the US.

But I think, really, the effect is just to shut down the comments sections because after a blast of commenters (trolls) all saying the same thing, people just give up and go elsewhere.

I would love to see a photo of these trolls all leaning over their keyboards.


16 posted on 04/20/2014 12:34:00 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim

It's just as well they stay indefinitely if the Bundy's will have them.

Once they leave and their numbers are small, the Feds will arrest and charge them with some crime against the government. Either on their drive home or shortly after they arrive.

17 posted on 04/20/2014 12:49:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson

They should go out there and kill every one of those tortoises and make a pyramid pile of them with a sign reading “Killed to Prevent Further BLM Crimes in their Name” or some such.


18 posted on 04/20/2014 12:53:35 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Mariner

Any entrepreneurial opportunities here?

Food, water, electricity, sanitation & other infrastructure that would allow the militia people to stay indefinitely?

Or volunteers providing of needed services? Anything that will render the Feds’ waiting game moot. The longer the militias stay on the Bundy ranch, the more the govags end up looking like real idiots.


19 posted on 04/20/2014 12:58:49 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Jim Robinson
...where they have been purportedly defending the property since a tense showdown ended with the federal government last week.

Not "purportedly" you dumba** (ABC)... They very definitely were, and are, defending that ranch. I guarantee you, as in bet anything you care to name that had there not been "too many witnesses" and too many firearms aimed at the BLM thugs things would have turned out very, very differently. Bundy would probably be dead, as would several others, the rest in jail and all his lands confiscated.

Also, the showdown hasn't ended, just moved to a different phase. For now.

20 posted on 04/20/2014 12:59:07 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: squarebarb

Those are the talking points over at that other site. Bless their hearts, they are not smart enough to understand what is going on. From pictures I have seen, the gov’t should be paying him.


21 posted on 04/20/2014 1:08:10 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ThunderSleeps

Ditto on the “purportedly” - one of the favorite weasel words of the .gov apologists formerly known as the Fourth Estate.


22 posted on 04/20/2014 1:10:40 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Importantly, there is the 17 day rule. In situations like this, after a couple of weeks, fatigue sets in, so people start leaving and relax. Three days after that, the badness goes down.


23 posted on 04/20/2014 1:10:50 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: squarebarb

A Question?
Why does the USA own this land? Saw a map and it looked like “We the People” own a lot of land out there. Why do WE own it and what are WE doing with it?


24 posted on 04/20/2014 1:14:15 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Yorlik803

Conserving it.

For future generations.

Who also won’t be allowed anywhere near it.

Get it?

Or are you just some sort of domestic terrorist racist?


25 posted on 04/20/2014 1:32:01 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Yorlik803
Good question. I'm telling my representative and senators that federal ownership and control of land within the states needs to be reverted back to the states, where it belongs.

Congress can dispose of the land, so I'm encouraging my congress-critters to do just that.

/johnny

26 posted on 04/20/2014 1:34:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: squarebarb
Bundy wants a free ride on land that belongs to ‘we the people’

Interesting comment from the koolaid drinkers. They don't stop to think that Bundy also belongs to 'we the people'....

27 posted on 04/20/2014 1:39:55 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Just rename the ranch to “Benghazi” and the feds will never show up.


28 posted on 04/20/2014 1:39:58 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: musicman

“When the People fear Government there is Tyranny;When Government fears the People there is Liberty’’.— Thomas Jefferson. I think we need to do a better job of making government afraid of us. Mr. Bundy is a good start.


29 posted on 04/20/2014 1:40:58 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Yorlik803

I’m confused about the ownership also.

Supposedly Reid was going to sell other land to the Chinese for a solar farm and wanted the BLM to kick Bundy off the land he was using (owns?) so they could use it as a turtle refuge in place of the land the Chinese wanted. Am I anywhere close?

So, how could Reid sell government land plus get a substantial commission? And I’m assuming it’s government land since they wanted to use the Bundy land to make up for the loss of the Chinese land. Does this mean anyone can buy “government land”?

As I said, I’m confused.


30 posted on 04/20/2014 1:42:58 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL, you’re a smart man, Jim!


31 posted on 04/20/2014 1:53:32 PM PDT by blu
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To: McGavin999

Mr. Bundy should present the govt with a bill for all the time and effort he has put in keeping up the water system and the land since the govt stopped using the grazing fees to do it. Just call it even.


32 posted on 04/20/2014 2:01:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: elcid1970

It’s a shame that the Homestead Acts were allowed to lapse. Although I suppose that these folks could just decide to stay and claim their 160 acres.


33 posted on 04/20/2014 2:02:45 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Jim Robinson
some sporting nametags reading "domestic terrorist,"

Between the "domestic terrorists" and "wacko birds", we know where the problem is: Washington.


34 posted on 04/20/2014 2:09:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ExGeeEye

Well, if the land is owned to protect it for generations why is Harry Reid selling it to red china.
Wait, I got to get ready for my cross burning. These white sheets don’t clean themselves ya know.


35 posted on 04/20/2014 2:36:06 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: stevie_d_64

If we had competent journalists instead of the lowest common denominator types that are on the payroll of news organizations, the wording would be as follows as opposed to the original sentence.
“The BLM defused the standoff,which it had caused.”

original...The BLM defused the standoff, citing safety concerns


36 posted on 04/20/2014 4:21:01 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim - here’s an interview you’ll enjoy...

http://therightscoop.com/this-clip-of-chris-hayes-vs-bundy-supporter-assemblywoman-michele-fiore-is-awesome/


37 posted on 04/20/2014 4:54:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC reporters couldn't spot a criminal if he was at the company Christmas party.)
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To: squarebarb

The left is fill of grazers that don’t pay. So is Mexico.


38 posted on 04/20/2014 5:00:01 PM PDT by dforest
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To: McGavin999

It’s worse than that. BLM started using those “fees” as a weapon.


39 posted on 04/20/2014 5:00:48 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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“Bundy told Breitbart News the only communication he has received from the BLM recently has been through the mail.

“I’ve received some certified letters that I haven’t opened, and that’s the only conversation on that, so I’m going to save those letters for maybe awhile. That’s how serious I think they are,” he said. “I’m tired of their bull. They put their guns at me and my family and these American people. How can I honor one of their letters? I might never open them,” he added.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/19/Bundy-Ranch-BBQ


40 posted on 04/20/2014 5:02:28 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: dforest

My “edit” button is broken. At post #38, supposed to be full, not fill.


41 posted on 04/20/2014 5:07:33 PM PDT by dforest
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To: RKBA Democrat
"Although I suppose that these folks could just decide to stay and claim their 160 acres. "

I think the Bundy's are living on the 160 acre homestead from the 1800's.

42 posted on 04/20/2014 6:10:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Robinson

and People could careless that
Al Sharpton owes over 3 million in Back taxes !!???


43 posted on 04/20/2014 8:01:03 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Islander2

Someone, the decision maker, was not prepared to get blood on their hands...They hoped for the people to back off, instead, the opposite happened...


44 posted on 04/21/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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The BLM defused the standoff

Right. If the militia had left, they would have been credited with "defusing" the standoff.
45 posted on 04/22/2014 1:48:39 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Great idea, really. Move the Knob Creek thing to Bundy’s. That would sure put the libturds knickers in a serious bunch! Just keep having big shooting events there.


46 posted on 04/24/2014 12:45:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It seems to me that the word “ terrorist” is intentionally being overused and abused.
I was wondering if that would happen after 911... And sure enough, it did. Anyone who now opposes the federal government in any capacity, is now labeled a “ domestic terrorist”. This isn’t a trivial point. It’s deliberate, and done with malicious intent to effect American public opinion against any organized opposition to federal government expansion. No one wants that label.


47 posted on 04/25/2014 12:02:33 PM PDT by FBD
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To: Jim Robinson

It ain’t over ‘til its over boys and girls.


48 posted on 05/05/2014 12:48:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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