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Israel and Russia are getting along. Have the neocons noticed?
The Week ^ | 4/16/2014 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 04/16/2014 8:45:25 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Russia and Israel seem to have a growing affinity for each other. A few weeks ago, Israel abstained from a vote in the UN censuring Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported [link at URL] that this is a sore spot for the White House and a diplomatic novum on the world scene.

A senior Israeli official said that Israel's absence from the United Nations vote was viewed around the world as an extremely irregular measure, a departure from a long-standing Israeli policy of voting with the United States in the UN. While the Americans viewed Israel's behavior as ungrateful, in light of Washington's unshakable support for Jerusalem in the UN, in the Kremlin and in the Russian media Israel's action was seen as an expression of support for Moscow, or at the very least a lack of opposition for the invasion of Ukraine. [Haartez].

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This also wouldn't be the first time that there was a significant split on an international question between American neoconservatives and Israel's leaders. Just compare how Netanyahu felt [link at URL] about the Arab Spring to the feeling of the neoconservatives [link at URL]. For the former it was a nightmare, for the latter, a dream come true.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
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And therein lies the rub: The Arab Spring. A disaster for Israel - and in reality for the U.S., too - even though Obama and his allies might not believe this to be the case? Before the Arab Spring, Israel had good relations with Egypt (and much better than now) even though Mubarak was a monstrous plutocrat. Plutocrat that he was, the Arab Spring - hailed by the Obama administration - brought in the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Egypt - which Obama allies called "largely secular" even though israel knew this to be false.

The Arab Spring also brought the also-monstrous Assad to the brink of being ousted... But Isreal surely could see that when Obama was about to intervene with bombings, this would help extremist Syrian rebels, and they surely thought they would be worse for Israel than Assad ever was.

Perhaps Israel sees this as a continuation of the "Arab Spring." If so, that would explain their vote. And I believe that is what is occuring...

1 posted on 04/16/2014 8:45:25 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Israel got tired of the US working against its interest. Blame Clinton and Kerry.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 8:47:14 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; caww; tcrlaf; little jeremiah; Count of Monte Fisto

Oops...

Good link:

http://theweek.com/article/index/260033/israel-and-russia-are-getting-along-have-the-neocons-noticed


3 posted on 04/16/2014 8:49:17 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Simple.....the Israeli’s trust the Russsian, Putin more then they trust Israel hater, POTUS, “I love the Muslim Brotherhood” Obama!!!


4 posted on 04/16/2014 8:49:18 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: Bogey78O

Maybe old memories are recurring. While the US was the first nation to recognize the State of Israel, the Soviet recognition followed in about ten minutes.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 8:49:28 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

They just realize America can no longer be trusted due to the antisemitic liberals in power and the cowardly ‘opposition’ party that empowers them. And they likely won’t trust us ever again.

They see Russia as a better and more stable option as a partner. I do not blame them a bit but I am sorry it had to be this way.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 8:50:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It seems they dislike this regime as much as I do.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 8:51:36 AM PDT by wattsgnu
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This also wouldn't be the first time that there was a significant split on an international question between American neoconservatives and Israel's leaders.

Israel's leaders recognize Obama as a feckless leader. They are choosing to align themselves with Putin who is not.

8 posted on 04/16/2014 8:53:19 AM PDT by oldbrowser
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Can’t get it to load. Too much truth?


9 posted on 04/16/2014 8:55:31 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

ty!


10 posted on 04/16/2014 8:56:03 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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The Arab Spring, looking back, surely must be seen as a disaster.

The Muslim Brotherhood is “largely secular.” Please. I bet that Netanyahu must have chucked his cookies when he heard those two words connected to the Muslim Brotherhood. Israel seems to have seen right through what really happened in Egypt with the Arab Spring.

11 posted on 04/16/2014 8:56:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The present administration picked sides in the Arab vs Israeli conflict, and the Arabs came out on top. Should Israel stand by our side while we aid and abet their enemies? Hardly.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 8:56:33 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional "rights" cherished by Democrats.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Good link:

http://theweek.com/article/index/260033/israel-and-russia-are-getting-along-have-the-neocons-noticed


13 posted on 04/16/2014 9:00:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

“Simple.....the Israeli’s trust the Russsian, Putin more then they trust Israel hater, POTUS, “I love the Muslim Brotherhood” Obama!!!”

I think that sums it up nicely. It doesn’t take a genius to see which side Obama favors. For a “Christian”, he sure does spend an awful lot of time promoting Muslim causes...


14 posted on 04/16/2014 9:01:00 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional "rights" cherished by Democrats.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Seems they don’t trust our leader’s “Muslim faith”.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 9:01:31 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Psalm 144

Sorry bout’ that. Good link up and running...


16 posted on 04/16/2014 9:01:41 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: CitizenUSA

That last sentence speaks volumes...


17 posted on 04/16/2014 9:02:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the Russians are smart, they’ll cozy up to Israel... with it’s large ex-Soviet population and vast technology experience... and build an alliance. The problem is that when Putin is gone, I have a hard time seeing Russia get over it’s built-in Jew hatred. Scratch a Russian and a Jew hater is right underneath. I wish that would change, but it is what it is.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 9:06:27 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Got it, and great post.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 9:07:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

As long as I can remember which goes back to childhood in the early1930s, there have always been a significant number of ‘Russian Jews’ in the USA. I can recall the Rabi’s wife bringing food to my mother after my father’s death even though my mother was from the old Czarist bunch of Russians.


20 posted on 04/16/2014 9:09:20 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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