Posted on 04/10/2014 10:35:30 AM PDT by bimboeruption
Press slandering of Militia movements after the OKC bombing silenced that movement under Clinton.
Wasn’t Jeff Head at Klamath?
I’m afraid you’re right. But when we had Ruby Ridge/Waco, there wasn’t this nationwide powder keg of hostilities, waiting for the wrong spark to set it off. I’m afraid we may be seeing a flashpoint in progress.
Some on here like to quote the constitution, but forget the 17th enumerated power under art 1 sec 8. Laughable.
“My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.”
Uhhh....no. He was paying “grazing fees”, not “doing what I want you to do” fees. If he thought the BLM wasn’t doing their job, he should have pulled his cows off the land and quit paying the fees. Or he should have lobbied the government to reign in the BLM. He can’t just decide he isn’t getting a good deal from the government and quit paying. Hell, we’d all be doing that.
This is similar to people refusing to pay income taxes because the money goes to the military.
However, the feds should just round up the cattle, sell them, take their fees and give him whatever is left. There’s no need to turn this into Occupy SW
Most likely he wants to stand in a pool of blood while he buys thousands of acres for the price of back taxes. He has done similar things before.
Bingo! No one should be siding with this person who mooches off of the public good. He stopped paying for grazing rights BEFORE it was declared off-limits for grazing. He’s been freeloading off the gov’t by grazing his cattle for free and pocketing the difference. He is a trespasser and taker.
It’s isn’t fair to law-biding ranchers who have to pay for lawful grazing rights.
Ok, be right back!!!
Yes he was. I met him there.
Would like to see home addresses of these agents and their bosses posted.
I got chills up my spine reading that.
God, protect them and give them wisdom.
So let the Feds kill him for it. Maybe a Gov.sniper can get him between the eyes. You approve?
Maybe he used the wrong justification - Mormon - as his defense. How about if he said “Muslim” instead of Mormon? Do you think it would make a difference?
Eric Holder called Americans cowards. Do you think anything short of a confrontation would make the feds back down?
As much as I dislike and despise FedZilla, I believe you are correct in this situation.
Just like our Founding Fathers when they wrote and executed on the Declaration in Independence, they wanted to make sure what they were doing was right and as legal as possible, and not based on emotional response. For the same reasons our Founding Fathers took the time to make sure what they were doing were righteous in all ways possible, I believe it is important for us to do the same and examine each situation appropriately.
You know the British also had the right to tax the colonies to pay for all of the protection they provided to them against the French, Spanish and Indians, allowing them to make huge freeloading fortunes without having to pay for the upkeep of being subjects of the crown.
But I can only assume that the 4th of July is still something you consider to be a holiday too?
That’s a good way to end up in jail.
I don’t doubt you. I certainly don’t want this situation to end in violence, but the rancher and his family really don’t have a legal leg to stand on. And bringing in like minded ‘militia’ is not going to help ease the situation. Hopefully the government will finish rounding up the cattle, haul them off and sell them, then call the whole matter over and done with and let him stew on what’s left of his ranch with his militia buddies.
“The family had cattle grazing on the land before the BLM took it.”
I don’t see where my statement conflicts with any of the facts in post #55. I didn’t say the rancher owned the land, but that their cattle grazed on it until the BLM took it over. First they were charging fees “to help the ranchers” and then it became ‘to get rid of the ranchers’.
Notice how the FEDERAL government takes over states’ rights.
This will not end peacefully. The current corrupt administration hates the normal people. If it orders their jackbooted thugs to open fire, the media will all in unison say that they did the right thing.
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